Talk:Minari

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 11:55, 6 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Minari (film) → Minari – I see little indication that the plant is so widely known as minari among English speakers as to make it the primary topic. The only articles that link to the redirect Minari—Ganghoe and Sukhoe—do so with a gloss: "minari (water dropworts)". Nardog (talk) 21:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. —Nnadigoodluck███ 11:30, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

• Very strong oppose per Carol Helstosky The Routledge History of Food 2014 p71 "Minari is used in many types of kimch'i, along with also commonly being added to soups and eaten as a seasoned side dish." - Minari is a Korean food, and not known as "water dropwort" in reference to cookery. A film named "Carrots" no matter how many page views it got would not become WP:PT by second criteria for carrots. Likewise a company named Apple... need we go on? (film) is there to help the reader. Ambiguating this article, contrary to WP:CRITERIA helps no-one. In ictu oculi (talk)
• Comment: I've notified WT:PLANT about this RM discussion. No particular stance at this point, as I can see both sides. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Pre-film pageviews analysis here. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 13:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

• No recommendation. I tried to research use of this word, and found Minari Engineering and that it is a name (at least in google scholar), although maybe not the name of anyone with a Wikipedia article. I'm a little suspicious of putting the film at "Minari" based on WP:RECENT. But on the whole I didn't really find enough to clearly point one direction or another. Kingdon (talk) 06:27, 24 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
• Weak Support because "minari" is one of several names for Oenanthe javanica, most commonly known as "Java waterdropwort". I don't find this analogous to a film taking over apple or carrot but rather taking over a more obscure name for either. Furthermore, the pageviews analysis shows that it barely had any traffic before the film came to be. Also, the film has been on over 70 film critics' top-ten lists for 2020, so while recentism is a valid concern, the attention on the topic has significant breadth. A hatnote can be sufficient to point the very few readers looking for the plant article to that article. Open to counter-arguments, though. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 19:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)Reply
• Oppose, at least for now. I see no strong evidence for primary use in either case. The film is new, so this could well change with time. —  Jts1882 | talk  12:45, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

  It is completely unlikely that the film will ever drop to a handful of views a day. It has been on numerous top-ten lists, so interest in it will be enduring. For comparison, here is a pageviews analysis of Metacritic's top-ten films from 2010 (and I dropped some obviously popular ones like Inception and Toy Story 3). The weakest-performing one of the top bunch still gets hundreds of views a day. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:51, 30 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

• Disambiguate the film appears primary by usage[[1]] while the plant is by long-term significance. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:35, 1 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
• Oppose. The movie is named after the plant, using a known name for the plant. There's nothing wrong with the short disambig "(film)" in the title. —Мандичка^YO 😜 13:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)Reply