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= Handbook =

== Open tasks ==

:''These tasks should be done as often as needed—ideally, on a daily basis.''

; Assessment
* Monitor the daily [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Film articles by quality log|assessment log]].  The main things to look for:
** Articles being removed.  This is usually legitimate (due to merges or non-film articles getting untagged), but is sometimes due to vandalism or broken template code. Also note that even though the banner and tags remain on the talk page, assessing a Future-class will remove the article from the bot's listing.
** Articles being moved to "GA-Class" and higher quality.  These ratings need to correspond to the article's status in the GA and FA lists, as well as our A-Class review.
** All newly added articles should be quickly scanned to see if additional task force tags or other maintenance tags (such as "needs infobox") are required.
* Deal with any new [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Assessment#Requests for assessment|assessment requests]] and the [[:Category:Unassessed film articles|unassessed articles]].

; Peer review
* For each new peer review request:
*# Add the review to the {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements}} template.
*# Leave a note on the main project talk page, and with each appropriate task force or contact (if any), using the following boilerplate: <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Coordinators/Peer review notice]]<nowiki>|Name of article}} ~~~~</nowiki></code>
* For each peer review that has been archived:
*# Remove the review from the {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements}} template.
*# Check the talk page to see that the parameter has been changed from "peer-review=yes" to "old-peer-review=yes".

; A-Class review 
* For each new A-Class review request:
*# Add the review to the {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements}} template.
*# Leave a note on the main project talk page, using the following boilerplate: <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Coordinators/A-Class review notice]]<nowiki>|Name of article}} ~~~~</nowiki></code>
*# Leave a note with each appropriate task force (if any), using the following boilerplate: <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Coordinators/A-Class review notice]]<nowiki>|Name of article}} ~~~~</nowiki></code>
* For each ongoing A-Class review:
*# If a review has been open for two days without at least three editors commenting, leave a reminder note on the main project talk page, using the following boilerplate: <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Coordinators/A-Class review alert]]<nowiki>|Name of article}} ~~~~</nowiki></code>
*# If a review has been open for four days, close and archive it.
* For each A-Class review that has been archived:
*# Remove the review from the {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements}} template.
*# If the article was promoted to A-Class (or demoted from it), add it to (or remove it from) the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films#Showcase|project showcase]].

; Featured content
* For each new [[WP:FAC|featured article candidacy]], [[WP:FAR|featured article review]], [[WP:FLC|featured list candidacy]], [[WP:FPCAN|featured portal candidacy]], and [[WP:FTC|featured topic candidacy]]:
*# Add the candidacy or review to the {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements}} template and the corresponding section in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Review|review department]].
* For each concluded [[WP:FAC|featured article candidacy]], [[WP:FAR|featured article review]], [[WP:FLC|featured list candidacy]], [[WP:FPCAN|featured portal candidacy]], and [[WP:FTC|featured topic candidacy]]:
*# Remove the candidacy or review from the {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements}} template and the corresponding section in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Review|review department]].
*# If the article, list, portal, or topic was promoted to featured status (or demoted from it), add it to (or remove it from) the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films#Showcase|project showcase]].

; Member outreach
* Welcome anybody who joins the project, using the following boilerplate: <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Outreach/Welcome]]<nowiki>|~~~~}}</nowiki></code>
* Update [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Outreach/{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}} Newsletter]] with new developments within the project.
<!--* Monitor and vote on [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films/Awards|proposals to award the ''WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves'']] and [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Contacts‎|applications to become a subject-area contact]]. -->

; Other
* Fix the {{tl|Film}} syntax on any articles in [[:Category:Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Films articles]]. The main culprits are the following:
*#Deleted peer-review or old-peer-review parameters. Restore as appropriate.
*#No WP Films peer review subpage. This usually occurs when editors turn on the peer-review tag in our banner but use the main [[WP:PR|peer review]] page. Open the banner, click on the peer review redlink, and redirect the page (Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Peer review/Foo film) to the original peer review page (Wikipedia:Peer review/Foo film).
*#Changed page name. Do as above, but redirect to the wherever the original peer review was.
*#Start or Stub articles that meet all of the B-Class parameters. Check the article to see if they actually do. If not, change the relevant parameters. If they do, then reassess the article to B-Class.
*#A-Class articles which have not passed A-Class review. (To be effective shortly when the dormant parameter is activated.) Re-tag down to GA (if already earned) or B.

==One-time tasks==
:''These tasks are targeted housekeeping drives which require immediate attention only once or infrequent maintenance.''<!--I will be limiting this to no more than one new addition per week, generally speaking, unless irregular tasks are completed unusually quickly.-->
* '''Task force tagging''' - several task forces are in need of comprehensive "search and tag" runs so that the vast majority of their articles are identified and tagged. Most notably the following: 
**Indian cinema
**War films
**Film awards (well-tagged, but needs a more thorough follow-up)
**Film festivals (well-tagged, but needs a more thorough follow-up)
* Retagging all instances of {{tl|FilmsWikiProject}} to {{tl|Film}}. '''Very''' low-priority.

== Toolbox ==

===New task force ===
:'''''N.B.''': Creating a task force involves a great deal of work, and is very time-consuming to reverse if an inappropriate or misnamed group is created.  It is generally inadvisable to create task forces without prior discussion—particularly regarding the name and scope—on the [[WT:FILMS|project's main talk page]].''

Before a task force can be created, it is necessary to decide on a name for it.  The process requires both a full name (e.g. "French cinema" or "Film festivals") and a one- or two-word or acronym shorthand used for some template parameters (e.g. "French" or "Festival").  The instructions below use the "Fooish cinema" task force (shortened to "Fooish") as an example; when creating an actual task force, remember to substitute the correct name, rather than actually creating the example pages.

# Create the task force page:
## Create the main task force page ([[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Fooish cinema task force]]) with <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Coordinators/Task force]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema|Fooish}}</nowiki></code> as the content.
## Fill in the "Scope" section on the new task force page.
## Create the task force talk page ([[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films/Fooish cinema task force]]) with <code>{{tl|WP Film Sidebar}}</code> as the content.
# Add support for the task force to {{tl|Film}}:
## Select an image to use as the task force icon.  The image should be recognizable at a small size and reasonably representative of the topic of the task force.
## Add the task force display code (shown below) to the task force section of {{tl|Film}}, in correct position among the task force parameters.  If the name of the task force does not begin with a capitalized term—in other words, where the name would be lowercase if it were not a page title (e.g. "military aviation" or "maritime warfare")—an <code>altname=</code> parameter containing the lowercased version of the name must be passed to {{tl|Film/Task force categories}}.
##: <code><nowiki>{{!}}-</nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>{{#ifeq:{{{Fooish-task-force|}}}|yes|</nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>{{!}} style="width: {{#ifeq:{{{small|}}}|yes|28px|43px}};" {{!}} [[Image:Fooimage.png|{{#ifeq:{{{small|}}}|yes|28x20px|43x30px}}|center]]</nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>{{!}} [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Fooish cinema task force|Fooish cinema task force]]<includeonly>{{Film/Task force categories|name=French cinema|class={{{class|}}}|importance={{{importance|}}}}}</includeonly></nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>
## Add <code><nowiki>{{{Fooish-task-force|}}}</nowiki></code> to the appropriate conditional statements in the template.
## Update the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Project banner|project banner instructions]]:
### Add "<code>|Fooish-task-force=</code>" to the example syntax, in correct position among the task force parameters.
### Add "<code><nowiki>* '''Fooish-task-force''' – "''yes''" if the article is supported by the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Fooish cinema task force|Fooish cinema task force]].</nowiki></code>" to the instructions, in correct position among the task force parameters.
# Set up the task force assessment infrastructure:
## Create the main task force category ([[:Category:Fooish cinema task force articles]]) with <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force category|WPFILMS Task force category]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema}}</nowiki></code> as the content.
## Create the main task force assessment category ([[:Category:Fooish cinema articles by quality]]) with <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment category|WPFILMS Task force assessment category]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema}}</nowiki></code> as the content.
## Create the assessment level sub-categories:
### [[:Category:FA-Class Fooish cinema articles]] with <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment level category|WPFILMS Task force assessment level category]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema|FA}}</nowiki></code> as the content.
### [[:Category:A-Class Fooish cinema articles]] with <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment level category|WPFILMS Task force assessment level category]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema|A}}</nowiki></code> as the content.
### [[:Category:GA-Class Fooish cinema articles]] with <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment level category|WPFILMS Task force assessment level category]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema|GA}}</nowiki></code> as the content.
### [[:Category:B-Class Fooish cinema articles]] with <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment level category|WPFILMS Task force assessment level category]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema|B}}</nowiki></code> as the content.
### [[:Category:Start-Class Fooish cinema articles]] with <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment level category|WPFILMS Task force assessment level category]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema|Start}}</nowiki></code> as the content.
### [[:Category:Stub-Class Fooish cinema articles]] with <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment level category|WPFILMS Task force assessment level category]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema|Stub}}</nowiki></code> as the content.
## Add the task force's statistics table (<code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment|WPFILMS Task force assessment]]<nowiki>|Fooish cinema}}</nowiki></code>) to the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Assessment#Task force statistics|task force statistics table]] in the assessment department.
# Set up the task force's open tasks listing:
## Create the task force's open task template ({{tl|WPFILMS Announcements/Fooish cinema}}) using the syntax shown on {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements/Task force}} as the content.  At a minimum, the <code>name=</code> parameter must be set to "<code>Fooish cinema</code>"; optionally, some initial tasks should be located and added to the listing.
## Add the new template to the "Task force lists" section of {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements}}; the column break should be moved, if necessary, to keep the two columns properly aligned.
# Set up the task force's userboxes:
## Create the task force userbox ([[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Outreach/User WPFILMS Fooish cinema task force]]) with the following content, using the same image as was used in {{tl|Film}} above:
##: <code><nowiki><div style="float: left; border:solid #C0C090 1px; margin: 1px;"></nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>{| cellspacing="0" style="width: 238px; background: #F8EABA;"</nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>|-</nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>| style="width: 45px; height: 45px; background: wheat; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt; color: black;" | [[Image:Fooish_image.png|45x45px]]</nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>| style="font-size: 8pt; padding: 4pt; line-height: 1.25em; color: #000000;" | This user is a member of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Fooish cinema task force|'''Fooish cinema task force''']] of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films|WikiProject Films]].</nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>|}</div></nowiki></code>
## Add the following to the userbox listing at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Outreach#User banners and userboxes]], in proper order among the other task force userboxes:
##: <code><nowiki>|-</nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>| <tt><nowiki>{{</nowiki></nowiki><nowiki>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Outreach/User WPFILMS Fooish cinema task force]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></nowiki><nowiki></tt></nowiki></code>
##: <code><nowiki>| {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Outreach/User WPFILMS Fooish cinema task force}}</nowiki></code>
# Add the task force to the project's navigation system:
## Add a link to the task force to the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films#Task forces|"Task forces" section]] of the main project page.
## Add a link to the task force <!--and the talk page--> to the appropriate task force section of {{tl|WP Film Sidebar}}
# Announce the new task force:
## Add an announcement of the new task force page to the "Announcements" section of {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements}}, and to the discussion of the task force proposal on the project's talk pages (if any).
## Add the task force to the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture#Films|"Films" section of the WikiProject directory]]; add cross-reference links to any other sections into which the task force falls.

=== Boilerplate and templates ===
:''mostly "Film"-ified...''
{| class="collapsible collapsed" style="width: 100%; border: 1px solid silver; margin-bottom: 1em;"
|-
! style="text-align: left;" | Public boilerplate notices
|-
| style="padding: 1em;" |
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Coordinators/A-Class review alert]]<nowiki>|X}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Coordinators/A-Class review notice]]<nowiki>|X}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Coordinators/Peer review notice]]<nowiki>|X}}</nowiki></code>
|}

{| class="collapsible collapsed" style="width: 100%; border: 1px solid silver; margin-bottom: 1em;"
|-
! style="text-align: left;" | Public templates
|-
| style="padding: 1em;" |
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Archive|WPFILMS Archive]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment|WPFILMS Task force assessment]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment category|WPFILMS Task force assessment category]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force assessment level category|WPFILMS Task force assessment level category]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Task force category|WPFILMS Task force category]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>
|}

{| class="collapsible collapsed" style="width: 100%; border: 1px solid silver; margin-bottom: 1em;"
|-
! style="text-align: left;" | Hidden structural templates & boilerplates
|-
| style="padding: 1em;" |
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/Toolbox/Banner]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/Toolbox/Newsletter boilerplate]]<nowiki>|...}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>subst:[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators/Toolbox/Task force boilerplate]]<nowiki>|...}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Film/Class|Film/Class]]<nowiki>|...}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Film/Task force categories|Film/Task force categories]]<nowiki>|...}}</nowiki></code>
* <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:WPFILMS Announcements/Task force|Film Announcements/Task force]]<nowiki>|...}}</nowiki></code>
|}

== Notes ==
Potential task forces - should only be created where there is specific demand from users
* general
** companies
** film studies
* genres
** comedy
** documentary
** horror (joint TF on horror films with WP Horror)
** sci-fi
** western
* nationalities (for very productive national cinemas)
** American
** Australian
** British
** Canadian
** German
** Japanese
** Korean
** New Zealand
** Russian
* regions (for smaller national cinemas)
** African
** Eastern European
** Latin American
** Middle Eastern
** Nordic
* time periods
** silent film
** decades
* movements and topics
** dogme
** neorealism
** new queer cinema (or LGBT at large)
** new wave

Project issues
* Weekly open task collab
* explicit IMDb guideline
* character notability clarification

=Discussion=
==Status report for December 10==
A quick sounding off of thoughts, issues, notices, and problems. Your opinions are sought and valued. Please follow-up with discussion below in separate sections for each topic. (I hope to make this a regular biweekly report starting next year.)

'''Project relations'''
<br/>I've been looking at our project structure, and we may want to work on liaising with certain projects. I don't think there are any left that warrant complete merging, with one exception below.
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers]] - this is actually not a WikiProject, but a workgroup of WP Bio. As we've expanded the scope of WP Films, I think that it is only natural and appropriate that we also include individuals, and this would essentially amount to our this workgroup into being jointly part of Films and Bio. This would involve little to no changes on the part of the group - mainly it would mean adding the necessary task force parameter to our banner, and placing the banner in the relevant talk pages. General article guidelines and administration would be handled by the group and the larger WP Bio project, which are more equipped to deal with those matters effectively.
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject American Animation]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and Manga]] - we may at some point have task forces for American cinema, Japanese cinema, and animation. It's not inconceivable that anime could be another taskforce that has both the Japanese cinema and animation task forces as its parents.
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Comedy]] and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Horror]] - overall genre projects that would be good collaborating projects for genre task forces. This is probably ideal, since we would be providing the style guidelines, while they could provide editors with content knowledge.
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Professional sound production]] - may be able to provide more expertise for Filmmaking task force; possibly even create a child task force? Depends on their growth.
* [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Saw]], et al. - I originally figured this would be an easy project to integrate with WP Films and Horror, since I assumed it was only movies. Of course, it has expanded into other licensed media, and is no longer solely within our domain. Nonetheless, it would be good for us to start discussing how to deal with mini-projects for franchises, because it seems that the interest in such projects is unlikely to die. Many of these projects have small scopes, however, which makes their existence as projects questionable, according to some editors on [[WP:COUNCIL]] who are trying to reform the WikiProject system. I understand the concern, but it is unclear how to proceed when our project does not have full scope over all of the smaller project's articles. Personally, I am content to leave these projects alone, but if reform work does start to go after smaller projects, especially with a smaller membership, it would be better to at least keep the group and its work intact as a subunit rather than deleting them. I am particularly keen to hear The Giant Puffin's thoughts, as I know that he is active in WP James Bond.

'''Project relations discussion''':
*Although several of these projects have related articles that fall under our scope, I don't some of them should be merged with ours. The main one I don't think would be beneficial in merging with would be WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers as this focuses on people. I think for tagging, our project's guidelines, and the sheer number of articles would make it difficult to control this project within ours. However, if there is general consensus by several other editors to include the project with ours, then I wouldn't object. I believe the other projects look like they should have no problem being merged into or becoming special task forces for our project. Also, a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Film|new task force was created that focuses on Korean films]], do you think that should remain within their project or be merged into ours as a task force? --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]]) 01:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


'''Plans and Initiatives'''
*I will be adding the [[WP:FUTFILM|Future films department]] to the sidebar immediately. The page has been up and running for some time now and several of the leading editors involved with these articles are aware of its existence and had opportunity to prepare it beforehand. As there's been no objections or edits to the page since I left it, it will be made public to the rest of the project now.
*Do the assistant coordinators want to have specific areas under their responsibility? I am aware of Nehram's work in Assessment, Outreach, and Spotlight - and I'm particularly grateful, especially as I don't spend much time in those parts! Perhaps it would be a good idea so as to keep the work less overwhelming. On the other hand, having a general pool of work that all of the coordinators are collectively responsible for makes it easier for everyone to handle individual coordinators who may be on short breaks, or even coordinators who are not doing any coordinating work. Plus, it prevents excessive OWN and bureaucracy issues. But if assignments makes it more efficient... In any case, please offer your thoughts.
*Scrapping the Importance parameter - this has been sporadically discussed on the project talk page over the past year, with mild support but no strong objection. Given the subjective nature of the project topics, it is difficult if not impossible to effectively rate the importance of most articles. More objective subjects, such as science and math, usually have a clear hierarchy of important-to-specialized topics, but with artistic endeavors, it is probably not worth the edit warring and subjectivity of trying to assess the "most important" films, filmmakers, or studios.
**This being said, there may be something to be said for making a single "Core" level (a la WP Bio) for a select group of articles (between 200-500), which might be considered our "Most Wanted FAs" list. This could also work as a successor to the now-dormant Collaboration department, with the advantage of less time wasted in continual voting, and maybe with an incentive system of a new series of awards, based on the number of FAs created from the list. Additionally, the list itself could be replenished when it grows too small. Selection of which articles could also be made slightly more objective by deriving them from a conglomeration of previously existing lists such as Sight and Sound polls, AFI lists, top-grossing lists, award winners, and perhaps more localized lists to allow for a sufficiently diverse and international grouping with a good spread of time periods. Task forces which don't cover individual films, such as Awards, Festivals, and Filmmaking, might also be allotted a small number of slots for their topics.

'''Plans and initiatives discussion''':
*I mentioned the future films department in the newsletter so more members will be introduced to if they haven't noticed it already in the side bar. Hopefully, more editors can continue to help Erik improve our future films. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]]) 01:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
*Concerning areas falling under the assistant coordinators' responsibility, nobody can take my departments, they are mine, and I OWN them! Just kidding, if anybody else is interested in helping with these, I always welcome the extra help. I enjoy working on these departments, and mainly took over them since it appeared they had been abandoned or there just a few editors working on them. I'll keep working on them and if you believe there should be other assigned responsibility, I'll be open to assisting elsewhere. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]]) 01:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
*The importance parameter definitely needs to go, and I remember several of the conversations that have arisen over including a core list of film articles. I could attempt to start creating a list if this is accepted, and mention in the newsletter/WP:FILMS talk page that editors could help contribute to the list. It would a great idea for each task force to also each have a list as well. Once this list is created, we can start awarding the film barnstar (or create a new one) and award it to each member that brings the article up to GA/FA level. This would hopefully provide an incentive to help improve the articles that are important to our project. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]]) 01:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


'''Housekeeping'''
*Question for Nehrams: how has Outreach been doing recently and do you have any new suggestions?
*Phasing out {{tl|WikiProject Films tasks}} in favor of {{tl|WPFILMS Announcements}} - it would be good to see this fully implemented shortly, if possible.
*Will be integrating the talk page "needs" tags (needs synopis, needs cast list, needs screenshot) into the banner shortly; this will require some retagging tasks when ready.
*We need to edit the "Editing Guidelines" and "Upgrading Needed" (Stub-only) boxes in the banner so as to reflect the larger scope of the project - not all articles are film titles now.
*Therefore, we also need to work on larger style guidelines for these articles as well. All with an eye towards the future goal of a larger MOS for all film articles.
*Banner redesign to more prominently mention and feature task forces - maybe not hidden at all?
*We need to start a tag drive amongst the membership to tag all B-Class articles according to their criteria. These parameters already exist within the banner but have not been implemented yet. Doing so will auto-categorize all B-Class articles by their problem areas, which makes targeted editing and improvement easier.
*Speaking of which, we need help with a few task force tag drives listed above in our '''One-time tasks''' section!

'''Housekeeping discussion''':
*Concerning the outreach department, we did the roll call a few months ago, and now have about 150 active members. We should probably do one of these as least once a year to remove editors who are no longer active. Each member (and new ones that join each month) receives the newsletter about the new departments/task forces, GA/FAs, and other happenings within the project. I haven't really received too much feedback from other editors about other topics to cover in the newsletter or any mention of things that need improvement. I would prefer to see if there is any interest for other information, as I'm the main contributor to the newsletter but don't know if there are other things that members want to see. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]]) 01:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
*Getting rid of the "need" tags will be beneficial for the talk pages by merging them into the banner. However, if possible, would the banner be able to display the needed elements without having to click on the [show] button? Right now, the needed infobox is hidden within the banner, and if it was edited to always be on top, it would be easier to see for new editors or those unfamiliar with our banner. Additionally, I don't think it should be a problem if the task forces weren't hidden as each article usually falls under just one or two task forces anyway. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]]) 01:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
*Concerning the "Upgrading needed" template, when I created it, I didn't really realize at the time that it wouldn't pertain to film characters and now our newly added festivals, awards, etc. Is there any way that we can develop a similar banner for each type of article (festival, award, character, filming technique, etc.)? However, if we do that, would the banner be modified to properly show each one based on the task force parameter that is included in the banner? Or would it be best to remove the template, and instead list in the banner "If you want to improve the film article, see here" which will link to the same information that was in the template? The same could go for "if you want to improve the character to start class, see here" with similar information on what the article should include. The editing guidelines should definitely be modified as well. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]]) 01:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
*The new announcements template looks a lot better then current task one, and it appears it would be easier than continually adding the current GANs, and needed infoboxes/images, etc. I would definitely be in favor of getting rid of the prior one. --[[User:Nehrams2020|Nehrams2020]] ([[User talk:Nehrams2020|talk]]) 01:32, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

'''Discussions of note'''
*[[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Films#.7B.7BAmericanfilmlist.7D.7D|More general film lists - should they be AfD'd?]] - this ultimately comes down to your interpretation of the Category vs. List argument. It would be good to keep in mind the long-term implications both ways.
*[[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Films/Style_guidelines#Re-ordering_sections|Guidelines for section ordering of Plot]]
*[[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Films/Style_guidelines#IMDB_User_Ratings|Usage of IMDb ratings in articles]]

'''Discussions of note discussion''':

'''Miscellany'''
* Due to travel demands, I will have minimal - if any - online time between December 12th and January 1st.
* Have a look at [[Wikipedia talk:Content review/workshop|this Content Review workshop]] - the entire peer review process is likely to be considerably revamped, and may have implications at the WikiProject level.

'''Miscellany discussion''':

Any and all comments will be much appreciated! - although I may not see them until January. (Which should give you plenty of time to think about all of them individually, too.) Have a good holiday season, [[User:Girolamo Savonarola|Girolamo Savonarola]] ([[User talk:Girolamo Savonarola|talk]]) 03:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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