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Cernovich has been a regular host of the far-right The Alex Jones Show on InfoWars.^[1]

This was reinstated after my removal.

As far as I am aware, though Cernovich appeared on InfoWars 3 times (by my count) as an interview guest, he has never hosted a show; the plans must have been cancelled by either Jones or Cernovich. The only sources I can find on Cernovich hosting an InfoWars show were WP:RSBREAKING around the time of the CNN piece. Saying he has been a regular host appears to be misinformation on our part, and completely misstates what the CNN piece said (it was an announcement of an upcoming show, not a retrospective). DFlhb (talk) 07:53, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found no WP:RS covering whether his "show" actually went through, or explaining when it was cancelled. If anyone finds one, then please reinsert the above sentence (though rephrasing it so it's not a distortion of what CNN says; something like: "In May 2017, Cernovich announced that he would become a regular host on Alex Jone's far-right InfoWars podcast"), followed by whatever sources say happened to his show.

Without such a source, it would be iffy to say the show was "announced" years ago without saying what happened to it. DFlhb (talk) 21:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The entire introduction section does not have a single citation. While I personally know that most of the information there is true, it is bizarre seeing a Wikipedia article introduction written like an opinion piece. Would have added some citations myself, but the article is locked 119.42.59.208 (talk) 06:48, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:LEADCITE. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 07:15, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes; if this is to prevent alt right conspiracy theorists from changing this, I understand. But what counts as “controversial”? Sources is a problem as I noticed this section, which most will see, was unsourced: “He unearthed old tweets by Sam Seder and James Gunn joking about pedophilia, and initially succeeded in pressuring to get them fired, but both were reinstated after public outcry.”

I’ll probably comment elsewhere, but “joking about pedophilia” is a gross reduction of Seder’s tweet, which was MOCKING those who excused pedophilia. I couldn’t remember if Gunn’s tweet was similar. Considering Cernovitch has apparently (according to this introduction) excused “date rape” with the claim that it “doesn’t exist” (?), clarification and sources are absolutely needed. Elleoneiram (talk) 21:45, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the refs per LEADCITE, as Nomoskedasticity said, but it's true that statements that are "likely to be challenged" should still be cited, so I brought a few back. And regarding the date rape comments, I've added the direct quotes, straight from the NYT, so you can see for yourself. DFlhb (talk) 22:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

can we have a source for the pizzagate statement? 2.222.248.73 (talk) 04:43, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Why are un-cited claims being allowed in the introductory paragraph? Zero sources, the entire thing reads like a conspiracy theory from a blue haired weirdo. Why is it locked? To prevent accurate information from being added? Lefty295 (talk) 19:09, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Not everything in the lead needs to be cited. It summarizes the body and the body is cited. The article has many sources. Closhund/talk/ 19:49, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]