Talk:Sarah Culberson

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I've provided references and hope this article won't be deleted. I mean, honestly, the girl is a princess and she might become the queen one day.

SwedishConqueror 00:13, 21 September 2006 (UTC)SwedishConqueror[reply]

Articles with valid references, like this one has now, are unlikely to be deleted. Angus McLellan (Talk) 07:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw a report on this woman on French national TV. It may not be the most important article in the world, but it is notable. I'm removing the deletion warning. FJM 18:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is notable. I saw it on the news (USA) a couple of times. [1] She meets at least the notablility guidelines. It should not be deleted.--John Lake 03:27, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe much more needs to be added to this page. She is more important than this article portrays her. She's been on Good Morning America, Inside Edition, the channel Lifetime, L.A. Times, People's magazine and several other places. The article doesn't even say she's a princess. If someone else doesn't edit the page, I'd be glad to.

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• Princess Sarah Culberson And Child.jpg
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The following Wikimedia Commons files used on this page have been nominated for deletion:

• Princess Sarah Culberson And Father.jpg
• Princess Sarah Culberson And Students.jpg
• Princess Sarah Culberson And Village.jpg
• Princess Sarah Culberson.jpg
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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 23:21, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Willthacheerleader18: Why did you revert me? Your editsummary makes no sense. See also WP:DISPUTED. The source used for the claim that she is a princess literally calls her an actress in the title. It is unclear how reliable the Elgin Courier-News is. Polygnotus (talk) 13:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingly, the source does not say she is a princess, it says:

Her father, however, was of a royal lineage. She was considered a Mahaloi — the granddaughter of a Paramount chief, with the status of a princess.

Being a Mahaloi may have the status of a princess, but its clearly not the same thing. I can't find any evidence other than her word that she is a princess, any hypothetical Mende kingdoms that may have existed in the past seem to no longer exist, and Paramount chief is just a term invented by British colonialists and does not mean "king", just "leader". Polygnotus (talk) 14:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mende people says nothing about a kingdom. Polygnotus (talk) 14:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See also Indian princess: The term "princess" was often mistakenly applied to the daughters of tribal chiefs or other community leaders by early American colonists who mistakenly believed that Indigenous people shared the European system of royalty.. Polygnotus (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Polygnotus: My apologies, I only meant to revert the addition of the citation tag, per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section#Citations, I feel that it belongs in the body of the article instead of the lead. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 16:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The page you linked to says: there is no exception to citation requirements specific to leads. Claims that are both unsourced and disputed need to be sourced or removed (on any article, but certainly on a BLP). I've been so kind to add the template to give someone the chance to provide a reliable source, but if that does not happen the claim will be removed. Polygnotus (talk) 16:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I should clarify, my preference would be to remove the claim from the lead and tag the body of the article. But alas, that's just a stylistic preference. Do as you see fit. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 16:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thanks for clarifying. I gotta think about that, maybe there is a more elegant solution. Polygnotus (talk) 16:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I asked some people and did some googling, and she is not a princess.

Sierra Leone could be described as a monarchy at some point in the past, when it was a British Protectorate.

Sarah Culberson is not related to Elizabeth II.

For a timeline see:

• https://webarchive.archive.unhcr.org/20230521053222/https://www.refworld.org/docid/469f38d81e.html
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_state_of_Sierra_Leone

The districts of Sierra Leone were divided into 149 chiefdoms of chieftaincies until 2017.

List of Paramount Chiefs of Sierra Leone says: In the government of Sierra Leone, Paramount Chiefs are nonpartisan Members of Parliament.

The granddaughter of a chief is not a princess.

Paramount chiefs get elected, so its not even a heriditary title.^[1]

So, the whole story is bullshit. Factchecking any good story kills it.

On the other hand, it is unclear if she knows that its not true and she seems to use the story to try to help those people. So, I am just gonna ignore it. Polygnotus (talk) 04:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]