User talk:TrulyTory
no, it is opinion. thanks for correcting. between the two of us, we have improved this entry however. TrulyTory 19:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
- A valiant effort with the Bobby Orr page. But it won't last. There are some wiki-nazis lurking about who feel they own the hockey pages. They are bound to take offence to your edit(even though you included the word 'arguably' to remove POV) and rv it because they they 'idol worship' a different player. Good Luck though ~Mr Pyles~
- I hate to say I told ya so but...
~Mr Pyles
- We shall continue to fight the good fight however .... Cheers !
- The word "arguably," all by itself, doesn't suddenly turn an unverified POV into NPOV. As we told Mr Pyles, if anyone cares to submit verifiable, current references backing up their assertions, then they can gain a consensus for their views. Mr Pyles has so far declined to bother, choosing instead to attack the credentials of anyone whose POV is (or that he claims is, anyway) different from his own. One of the things that Wikipedia is not is a soapbox. There are no doubt many forums and bulletin boards where you can press your personal opinions all you want on this subject, and good luck to you. RGTraynor 17:58, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
TrulyTory,
His(and a couple of others) entire POV is based on 1 book. A book which used 50 hockey 'experts' as selected by The Hockey News. A book which, BTW, did not list Steve Yzerman as one of the top 50 players of all time??? I guess somehow the opinions of these 50 represent the opinions of all?. It's a very Communist way to control an otherwise informative series of pages. I have tried (as quite a few others have tried) to correct the wording to 'many' or 'some' rather than the misleading word 'most' which implies fact and should never be used. But it is to no avail. He's right that wiki shouldn't be a soapbox, but apparently it is a soapbox for a select few. I will credit them though as they hawk some of these pages in that they catch obvious vandalism and revert it almost as quick as it happens. And the overall layout of the pages is very well done. So, even with the POV in place, the wiki-'Kremlin' has done some noble work. ~Mr Pyles
So by Tory do you mean you love protectionism? and thus the exploitation of societies poorest people?
(Gibby 02:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC))