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Discussion of Canada's official name

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Inclusion of God Save the Queen Audio Clip

Recently, I have taken notice of the exclusion of the God Save the Queen audio clip within the pages of other Anglosphere countries (i.e. Australia and New Zealand.) Similar to Canada, God Save the Queen is also rarely performed in public within those countries. On Australia's page, the royal status of God Save the Queen is only acknowledged by a minor note. For the sake of consistency and practicality, I personally would recommend replacing the current audio clip on this page in favor of a note that acknowledges the status of God Save the Queen, similar to the situation on Australia's page. TextClick (talk) 06:42, 20 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agree as with other commonwealth countries. Though a "De facto Royal anthem" that dates to 1745 it's not an official symbol of the country. Historica Canada-Canadian encyclopedia.."Canada' and 'God Save the Queen'/'Dieu sauve la Reine' were approved by Parliament in 1967 as Canada's national and royal anthems. However, legislation to this effect was passed only in 1980, and applied only to 'O Canada" and the fact it's not listed as Canada's "Official symbol" page....not even listed at the Unofficial page. Its a royal symbol used for the royals for sure...but its not a national symbol.--Moxy 🍁 03:26, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As stated on the government official Canadian Heritage web-page "The anthem is performed officially in Canada in the presence of members of the Royal Family, as part of the Salute accorded to the Governor General and Lieutenant Governors and by Canadians at all types of ceremonies and events usually in concert with the national anthem “O Canada”.". Just because it was never acknowledged through an act of parliament doesn't mean its not a national symbol. In fact, God Save the Queen was never recognized as the national anthem through an act of parliament in the United Kingdom. Its stated as an official anthem on the Government of Canada's website and is an important part of Canadian culture and heritage and should be displayed on an informational wiki-page. Justin076 (talk) 15:17, 25 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Current "note" format is great at explaining the situation and is much more informative then just a file....that said could add the file in the note.--Moxy 🍁 03:16, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But I'm confused as to what is wrong with the current format? Why is the note necessary? We don't need to explain what a royal anthem is, that can be done via further reading on the article royal anthem which is linked in the current format. Monarchy's with a royal anthem such as, Sweden, Norway, Denmark .etc. all have the format that was abruptly removed from the Anglosphere countries. Further, aside from sporting or recreational events, God Save the Queen is played in conjunction with the national anthem. In the presence of regal and vice-regal members, military and remembrance related events, Canada Day celebrations, during the opening of many legislative bodies sitting days provincially and municipally. So I am very confused as to why we are trying to brush the anthem aside? Justin076 (talk) 19:23, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Its not the anthem, its of historical interest and is only currently used in one context. It may (but only may) deserve mention in the main body -----Snowded TALK 19:41, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be fine removing it. Fifty years ago, it was regularly performed at all public gatherings alongside "O Canada". I cannot recall hearing it preformed publicly since 1982: not at sporting events or recreational event. It may have been performed when a member of the House of Windsor was here, but it's really of no importance in normal life today. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:31, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This has similarities with the article Rideau Hall, where the Canadian monarch is mentioned as an official resident, even though common practice in Canada seems to be that the governor general is the 'only' official resident. GoodDay (talk) 22:01, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is that a de jure statement or a de facto statement or tradition? I get the feeling a monarchist editor may have been involved in these edits. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:08, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You mean Mr. M?? GoodDay (talk) 22:19, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's as if you were reading my mind. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:42, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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 Done aboideautalk 18:56, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Could we get some input about adding First Nation links to our main Canada topic nav box {{Canada topics}}. Pls see Template talk:Canada topics#Under 'Geography' adding 'Countries'.--Moxy 🍁 02:02, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Commonwealth of Canada

In Italian Wikipedia says the official name of Canada is "Commonwealth of Canada". Is correct? --Davi Gamer 2017 (talk) 21:10, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No. Simply Canada. Alaney2k (talk) 21:11, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No. Other Wikipedia articles are not reliable sources (and this is why). Walter Görlitz (talk) 21:17, 14 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Questioning whether Canada was the "main" front of the war of 1812

The article states that Canada was the "main" front of the war of 1812. On land, there were other fronts and many battles outside of Canada. Battles actually *in* Canada were just part of one front. Even on the northern front, major battles were actually in northern American states and this includes battles in New York, Vermont, Michigan Illinois, Michigan, Indiana and Ohio. Battles in Illinois and Indiana were generally against native Americans and would have been considered the western front.

Further south along the east coast were the battle of Baltimore (Ft. McHenry) and the raid on Washington DC. Much further south were battles in the Missouri Territory, Florida and, of course, New Orleans, LA (granted, the Battle of New Orleans was technically after the Treaty of Ghent, but news hadn't reached America). Then there is the entire Atlantic front among British and American warships, merchants and American privateers.

If what makes one of these fronts the "main" front is the size of battles based on troop counts, I don't think that would make Canada the main front. I think a survey of these battles might show that battles in DC, Baltimore, and New Orleans were much larger than most of the battles that were actually conducted in Canada. At sea, the blockade by the British ships patrolling the entire east coast.

By troop and sailor count, I'm not sure the battles actually fought in Canada even make up the plurality troops and sailors in the war.

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