User talk:Kumioko

Kumioko is editing as User:108.28.162.125 05:40, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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There was a time (in fact just a year ago) when I would have requested an unblock and fought hard to be allowed back, but not anymore. I tried in the past to get folks to listen and no one cared. Its obvious I am to be treated as a common vandal so here is what I am asking. I want you to perform a global block on my account as it is here in the English Wikipedia. I tried to be an active positive contributor but I just got shit on and treated like a second class citizen so now I want no part of this. I want my account blocked on all Wiki's as it is here please. Kumioko (talk) 21:39, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The place to do that is on Meta, not here. (m:SRG) --Rschen7754 21:49, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks its done and I removed the edit request template. Kumioko (talk) 22:04, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to fight particularly hard to be allowed back. All you'd have to do is agree to post as yourself instead of as an IP and I'd unblock you. You're not a vandal, it's just that you're not following the policy on undisclosed alternate accounts; when/if you decide you're willing to follow that policy, I'll be happy to lift the block (as would, I'm sure, many other admins.) But I see you've already posted the global lock request, so I suppose it's a moot point now. I'm sorry you decided to go that route rather than go along with the (in my opinion) quite reasonable request to sign your comments as yourself and not a string of numbers. 28bytes (talk) 22:07, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter anymore. There was a time when it did, I no longer want to participate as a user. Is that so hard to understand? I would like to do the occasional edit as an IP, even then my edits will be limited as they have been. Because the community lost me as an active editor. They don't deserve to have an active contributor (not just me) that cares about the project. They want editors who piddle and do a few edits, keep their heads down and don't ask questions. That ain't me and never has been nor do I think I am wanted. I am convinced now, more than ever that the general population is more interested in protecting their own POV interests than in building an encyclopedia and that includes the vast majority of Admins.

It all boils down to this. Our users, myself included will only participate if they are treated with respect. If they aren't then they leave. That includes myself. Some of us leave and don't come back and some of us continue to participate in some small way. Its your choice which one I do. I can leave and not come back at all or continue to do edits occasionally as an IP. Frankly I am at the point that I don't care to try and prove myself anymore. If I didn't prove that I believed in the project and I could be trusted in the last 7 years and hundreds of thousands of edits, working on wikiprojects, attending meetups at Museums and other locations and trying to collaborate to make this place better I never will. My 2nd RFA showed that I'll never be allowed to help out any more than an editor yet more and more content is protected. It was a complete insult as was the first one four years ago when it was "easier" to get the tools. I have a lot of experience and wanted to use it but I'm not going to waste my time contributing if I have to take three times longer to do something because I can't edit a protected template. I can't block a vandal so its not worth my time looking for them. I can't read deleted content so there's little point in participating in things like CCU or Arbcom. I no longer have sympathy for long wait times and overworked admins. If they wanted the help it was there and offered. So now I'm just done. You can do whatever you want. Keep the account locked. Its fine with me. Kumioko (talk) 23:58, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that your "occasional edits as an IP" are to extremely contentious ArbCom pages, where emotions are running high, and where you advocate desysopping people who happen to have blocked you in the past. That's not right, and it's against policy for very good reasons. If your IP edits were fixing misspellings in articles or reverting vandalism or adding sources, I doubt anyone would mind or care. Do you really not see the difference? 28bytes (talk) 00:08, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't advocate they be desysopped because they block me, I advocate it because they block unnecesarily aggressively and for exceeding lengths of time. They wield the admin tools like a mallet. I think they used to be one of the best admins but over the years they have grown cold in their duties and have become harsh. Since we are on the subject of Arbcom, I don't see anyone fussing at the other 8 IP's that have edited the various Arbcom cases. Just the 2 I used. One for my home and one at work which is used by a lot of other folks. So I am inclined to believe that it is not the sum or location of the edits, but indeed me. I think its also important to clarify that I was not the only one advocating they be desysopped. In fact one of the Arbitrators said that, a couple of other users said that and its what will likely come out of the Arbcom ruling. Kumioko (talk) 00:17, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well they denied my request for a global lock to my account. I think they are concerned I may change my mind. I got blocked for 6 hours but I'll try again tomorrow. Kumioko (talk) 01:35, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This behavior is very disturbing and disappointing. Your now just trying to get attention right? Posting about others when that gets no responses you ask for a global block. You really need to move on with your life outside Wikipedia or do the clean start processes. Just stop bitching about others and try to focus on yourself. Last post here ever! Moxy (talk) 05:20, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your right Moxy. There was a day I would have never done this but I am way beyond ever being able to recover this account and I tried for a long time to plead my case and no one cared. All I wanted to do was collaborate and work with others to build this place up but too many editors where more interested in protecting their interests and violating policy but yet i am the one that got blocked and run into the ground. The worst part about it is that too few cared. At this point I don't care about a clean start so that this broken toxic culture can just run me down again. On the note of getting attention. Absolutely not and I don't know why people are saying that. I asked for a global block and if that would have been done as I asked I would be able to respond, edit or likely even login. I don't understand how that would be getting attention. I certainly have my problems here too but there was a time when I really truly believed in this place, but the culture screwed that up. This is the kind of thing that happens when someone devotes a lot of time and effort into Wikipedia and then is told they can't be trusted. The person gets frustrated and pissed and they stop editing, turn into a vandal or lock their account. AS far as posting about others, I responded to a comment. There are a few that I think shouldn't be admins and I mentioned why in other forums. I'm not going to rehash that now because people don't care if they are bullies or bad admins. They talked the community into promoting them and its a billet for life. But I can't even edit a protected template, block a vandal or the various other things that the tools provide. I wanted to use my experience to help but was told no but that I could do all the work and ask someone else to implement the change. No thanks, if you don't want me to be able to implement the change, then you do the work. Too many experienced users are being pushed out rather than allowing them to edit and use their experience and its severely affecting things here. Someday someone will figure that out rather than just continue to stick their heads in the sand and claim there is no problem. I just want my account blocked. No drama, no muss no fuss. I'm not wanted here so its time to as you said above move on with my life outside wiki.Kumioko (talk) 11:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Your now just trying to get attention right?"... "You really need to move on with your life outside Wikipedia" - blaming the victim, how amusing. if you won't take negative feedback from exiting editors, who will you listen to? this will be an amusing experiment: how long will it be until asking to be blocked is disruptive justifying a permanent block? 6 hours, 1 day, 1 month? they don't like being "told" to use their tools, they prefer the Nixonian Madman theory. Farmbrough's revenge⇔ †@1₭ 13:46, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I feel like you hit the nail on the head there. A year ago I got blocked and fought tooth and nail to prove my innocence against what I still consider to be a lousy and ill performed block and no one wanted to hear it and blocked me completely until I finally persuaded someone to let me come back. Now, I want my accounts to be blocked without drama since I have been blocked here indefinately for socking and block evasion, they refuse, tell me I'm just being dramatic and that I should just walk away. How can asking for a global lock on my Wikia account be any less dramatic. All these replies would have been impossible if they would just lock my account. They don't want me to contribute and to use my experience but they won't block me either. All I can do is shake my head. Kumioko (talk) 15:49, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I begged and pleaded but I can't get the stewards to give me a Global site ban! I just got a 3 day block for disruption for not letting it go though. I really get the impression they don't think I'm serious about my intent! Kumioko (talk) 02:24, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. I haven't really been a fan of Arbcom but demanding Arbcom resign is extreme even by my standards. Kumioko (talk) 02:49, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And why does User:Int21h have a huge template on their user page saying the are blocked for socking if they are still allowed to edit. If the investigation was wrong that thing should be gone. Kumioko (talk) 02:51, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]