Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hiro Morita

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The result was keep. Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 19:30, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hiro Morita is an English-language commentator and host on NHK responsible for programs related to professional sumo. From a Wikipedia standpoint, however, I do not believe the subject meets the threshold for notability. The amount of secondary sources on the subject are not sufficient; two of the sources in the article are written by a commentator (John Gunning) that frequently collaborates with the subject on NHK programming, and most other links point to the NHK website. Searches for additional news articles or websites about the subject lead to poor results. JRHorse (talk) 00:04, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, the notability is rather established. If John Gunning writes articles on Hiro Morita it is indeed because the two work together on the subject of sumo for NHK (and this statement is a bit far-fetched given that Gunning only participates in NHK previews) but also and this is important because Gunning is one of the few English-speaking journalists and columnists who works on the world of sumo, at all.

The results you mention are also rare but the same can be mentioned for articles like Ajigawa stable (2022). I especially think that with the channel rooting and the collaboration between Morita and JSA, the article will be able to find more source. - OtharLuin (talk) 01:03, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I do not think that there are enough secondary, independent sources out there to establish notability. Many in the article point to NHK, a primary source. JRHorse (talk) 11:14, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Keep in my own search I’m seeing fairly frequent media mentions in reliable sources, they’re just not particularly in-depth. The most in-depth seems to be https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2022/08/10/sumo/jsa-youtube-english-morita/. It’s clear he’s one of the few names in English language Sumo presenting, and I do see quite a few media mentions, so I’m leaning towards keep, but remain persuadable. Jo7hs2 (talk) 03:19, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment For those doing their own searching, the search will be mildly hindered by the subject sharing the same name as Beyblade Burst creator Hiro Morita. Jo7hs2 (talk) 03:23, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - Basically he and Chris Gould are the English voices for sumo. I feel the sources posted are adequate.KatoKungLee (talk) 00:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I notice you recently added three sources to the article, two of which should be considered as primary sources: One link is to a press release from NHK, and the other link is to a talent agency profile. JRHorse (talk) 12:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:35, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 11:39, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. With the Japan Times article above and the rest given, I think he just passes notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:51, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep I could find 5 sources about it in 2 minutes. Notable. Starship 24 (talk) 16:16, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I disagree as a search for the subject to me still yields insufficient results. I was going to ask this user about the sources they found, but the account has been blocked. JRHorse (talk) 11:27, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep based on barely significant coverage such as two featured articles in the Japan Times and other reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 18:45, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.