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India

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Sanjay Sehgal

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I removed the PROD tag from this article since it was already PRODed once. Page was also speedy deleted under WP:G11 twice before, and subject appears to be non-notable.

The editor who added the PROD tag provided the following rationale:

Clearly fails WP:GNG/WP:NBIO. Quick run-down of the five existing refs: Ref 1 is openly sponsored content, ref 2 is a Q&A/interview with the subject, ref 3 is a post by the subject, ref 4 is is a Q&A/interview with the subject (accompanied by a short bio/introduction), and ref 5 is a press release, presumably by the subject or one of their companies (although it's not transparently indicated that it's a PR on the website, the text, which can be found on a few other "news" websites, follows a PR template for this kind of "news", see, e.g., basically the same release for another person and another one). All other sources I see are also either primary (interviews etc.) or non-independent. The subject seems to have received some awards/honors but none of them are notable afaics (like the kind of award/honor mentioned in ref 2) (proposed by Felida97).

CycloneYoris talk! 21:39, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saiman Says

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The sources do not provide WP:SIGCOV, and the subject fails to meet WP:GNG. The sources include four YouTube videos and three blog articles, such as TOI Readers’ Blog and Talk Esports. I don’t think GNG is met here. GrabUp - Talk 15:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GrabUp: I have replaced three of the four YouTube videos with news articles. It will be helpful if you can let me know which ones are the blog articles. Pur 0 0 (talk) 17:02, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sanjay Passi

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I don't see any significant coverage. Likely doesn't pass WP:GNG. LKBT (talk) 05:43, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ram Vishwakarma

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No reliable sources are available on google, I also tried searching in Regional languages but got nothing. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Taabii (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Farakka Port

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The existence of this port is questionable due to a serious lack of sources. A Google search yields no results for the so-called "Farakka Port". The cited sources in the article refer instead to a Farakka inland waterway, used for transporting coal to the Farakka Super Thermal Power Station near the Farakka Barrage. It seems it is actually referring to a floating terminal listed here. In any case, the topic fails to meet WP:GNG. The Doom Patrol (talk) 09:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest merge some supported content to a section in Farakka. - Davidships (talk) 13:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shalini Passi

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Unable to see enough SIGCOV to meet WP:NARTIST, WP:GNG or WP:ACTOR. LKBT (talk) 07:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Section 108 (film)

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Upcoming film that doesn't meet WP:NFF. Could be moved to draft space, but there's nothing in the article to show how this meets NFF. Ravensfire (talk) 04:20, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bhutabali

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The subject has only written a single text, apart from which, there is no other biographical information available. Hence, low notability. Not many WP:RS mention the subject. Moreover, the same information as on this page is also available on the page Satkhandagama. Tagging other active users of this project and those who responded to a similar AfD previously: User:RJShashwat, User:Goyama, User:Expectopatronum30, User:TheAstorPastor. To fellow editors: please feel free to not respond if you didn't wish to be tagged here. I apologize for the same. ParvatPrakash (talk) 00:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there aren't more sources redirect to Satkhandagama. PARAKANYAA (talk) 03:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't find any more sources. Whichever I found only state that he wrote Satkhandagama, nothing more than that. I couldn't find any other biographical information about him. ParvatPrakash (talk) 03:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Non notable actor/ assistant director. His claim to fame is as the brother of popular actress Nazriya Nazim and brother in law of Fahadh Faasil. Does not seem to meet the requirements of WP:NACTOR. Jupitus Smart 21:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Conquest of Ajmer

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Yet another MILHIST article that spun more around event's background and aftermath rather than describing the event itself. Fails WP:MILNG and WP:SIGCOV as sources measly refer this particular event as a capture of Ajmer alongwith Nagaur, could not find Seige Siege of Ajmer in the sources. Garuda Talk! 16:26, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete: I agree with your observations. The article has been in contention for deletion before too. Xoocit (talk) 22:59, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete — (soft) — per nominator and above. That said, there do seem to be a number of sources listed in the “the battle” section… if someone could spin-out more information regarding the actual siege from these (or any other) I might be inclined to re-consider my position or at least rescind my “delete” position. But as-written, it’s a delete, for me. There is enough contention via multiple issues that I am rescinding my “delete” opinion (and altering it to Comment). MWFwiki (talk) 01:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that the initial contributor has a history of WP:CITEBOMB and just citing irrelevant and unreliable sources [7][8][9]; From the analysis of the sources, it is evident that they contain barely a few lines of passing mention, often limited to a single line:
    • [10]: This barely has one line of passing mention.
    • [11]: Page needed; however, upon searching through snippets, nothing relevant could be found.
    • [12]: Irrelevant to this conflict; nothing about the event was found. The initial contributor has a history of citing random sources without thoroughly reviewing them.
    • [13]: Same case here, a one liner "Mahmud Khalji of Malwa defeats Gajadhar".
    • [14]: Lastly, here as well, a line of passing mention. Garuda Talk! 16:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete: Per nomination. - Ratnahastin (talk) 05:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The article was moved from Conquest of Ajmer to Seige of Ajmer at Special:Diff/1261104784, which I would have thought the nominator would have been aware of, so the argument that the sources refer to "capture of Ajmer" and not "Seige of Ajmer" and therefore it fails WP:SIGCOV and WP:MILNG on that basis is not a good argument. If anything they make an argument for moving the page back to the old name or similar. Pinging @Xoocit, @MWFwiki and Ratnahastin as you may not have been aware of the page move. TarnishedPathtalk 11:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Titles containing non-neutral terms like "Conquest" should be used with caution, as per MOS:MILNAME. Additionally, this event has only a few passing mentions and lacks sufficient independent, significant coverage to justify a standalone article. Garuda Talk! 16:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: This article seems to place more emphasis on the event's context and aftermath with very limited information about the actual 'Conquest of Ajmer', maintaining the title given instead, it describes the aftermath, particularly the construction of a mosque and a shrine, as well as the role of Khwaja Niamatullah and Makhdum Husain. I see only passing reference to the siege, without any citation, it does not provide the level of depth expected for WP:MILNG to pass.--— MimsMENTOR talk 10:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete: I have moved this page from "Conquest of Ajmer" to "Siege of Ajmer" in the past on the basis of its lead title being misleading. A conquest is usually understood as the absorption of a territory into the state for a static amount of time, if not permanently. However, in this case it was recaptured by Kumbha within a few days. Aside from that, this article has multiple issues as noted by editors above, like WP:SIGCOV and WP:MILNG. Some cherry-picking of sources has also been done with the battle section, which was more of a siege, actually lacking a sufficient amount of source. Rawn3012 (talk) 11:40, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:SIGCOV RangersRus (talk) 01:00, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

J. Bhagyalakshmi

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WP:BLP of a writer, not properly sourced as passing WP:AUTHOR. As always, writers are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because their work exists, and the notability test hinges on the quality and depth of the sourcing that can be used to independently verify their significance -- but this article is referenced entirely to her own writing metaverifying its own existence in Google Books directory entries rather than any evidence of GNG-building coverage and analysis about her, and the article has been tagged for sourcing problems since 2010 without ever having any better sourcing added.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to have much, much better referencing than this. Bearcat (talk) 15:23, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sisir Radar

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This company page is 100% WP:PROMO. Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:36, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jajnagar Expedition of Firoz Shah Tughlaq

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Full of OR and SYNTH mess, cited with poor sources that were being dealt with. At best a hoax fan PoV that should not have been in the mainspace at the first place. Garudam Talk! 22:53, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Per nomination. Created by a prolific LTA that has a history of creating similar poorly sourced and pseudohistorical POV articles. - Ratnahastin (talk) 05:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This article has been edited by multiple non-sock edits since it's creation by a banned editor. If the article isn't eligible for speedy deletion under G5 then the argument that it was created by a LTA is not a policy based argument. In regards that the article is a WP:OR and WP:SYNTH mess, no argument has been provided why the article is beyond redemption and therefore WP:TNT is necessary. WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. TarnishedPathtalk 11:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm still trying to deal with the unreliable sources that were being cited by the initial contributor, it is quite disorganised but here is why it is full of OR mess:
    [15]: He was succeeded by Bhanudeva III during whose reign (1352-1378) Orissa began to show sign of decay. is certainly not coherent with "Firuz Shah Tughlaq advanced his forces all the way to Puri, where King Bhanudeva III bravely confronted the sultan's army. However, after a brief engagement, Bhanudeva III was defeated and subsequently fled to the forests for sanctuary." as written in the article. A blatant OR from the IC as usual. Also looking through the sources it looks like they do not have more than a line of a coverage hence the issue of SIGCOV remains. AfD is not a cleanup but that doesn not mean OR, SYNTH and SIGCOV should be disregarded, this is WP:FALLACY. Garuda Talk! 15:27, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aryan Hasan

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Fails WP:NACTOR. Not enough notability to warrant a standalone article, at least not at this time. CycloneYoris talk! 20:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brahmalokam To Yamalokam Via Bhulokam

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Fails WP:NFILM since the creation of this article [16]. A search in English or Telugu yield no reliable sources [17]. Only sources found were passing mentions: [18] [19] [20]. Webdunia production source(no link on Wikipedia) isn't enough to save the article. DareshMohan (talk) 04:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added two reviews from the sources available. Please check if it can suffice - Herodyswaroop (talk) 08:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manya Pathak

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Non-notable subject created by a blocked user. I have removed a lot of unsourced material, poorly sourced puffery, and unnecessary details. I have verified all the sources, but the notability of the subject remains uncertain. Zuck28 (talk) 11:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tajinder Bagga

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This subject fails WP:NPOL , Bagga has never been elected to any legislative body. Additionally he also fails WP:NBIO as being a mere national secretary of a political party's youth wing does not make one notable. The sources cited here also do not provide WP:SIGCOV and those that do fall under the purview of WP:NEWSORGINDIA as undisclosed press releases because they do not identify an individual author/reporter and have only generic bylines with promotional tone or are puff pieces. [22][23]. - Ratnahastin (talk) 09:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Khilli Ram Meena

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no indication this person is meets the criteria of WP:ANYBIO the only source is a press release by the government. It is an appointed position with no inherent notability attached to it. I can't find any other sources to support this person is notable for anything else. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 18:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sundarangudu

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Fails WP:NFILM. A cursory search didn't help. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a television film. Why was this listed on the Television Project's alert list?-Mushy Yank. 17:32, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Premachi Goshta (TV series)

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Edit war between three editors attempting to redirect and a LOUTSOCK who keeps removing. Looking at the sources, they are all unreliable as churnalism, general announcements, and WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Recommend redirect to Yeh Hai Mohabbatein which is the show this is based off of. Although, would also request protection of the title if that happens. CNMall41 (talk) 18:10, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Consensus split between redirect and keep.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Benison (Beni · talk) 19:15, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎ and salt. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 21:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Enterr10 Television Network

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Repeat of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Enterr10 Television Network, closed as soft delete. Source #1 reads pretty much like a press release and is likely one, source #4 does not mention Enterr10 at all. Not sure about the reliability of the two others: DreamDTH (source #2) appears to have a strong editorial policy, but mentions running advertising, which I am concerned about, while source #3 is barely in-depth. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Saiyar Mori Re

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Unable to find independent sources with significant coverage. The existing sources about and around "Saiyar Mori Re" are mostly routine coverage and paid PR/brand content, failing WP:NFSOURCES. I am also unable to find the minimum number of full length reviews, so it fails WP:NFILM entirely. The sources mentioned in the previous XfD are paid PR, as evident from the bylines and reviews from unknown websites/blogs. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 15:33, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Why was this added to the Actors and Filmmakers list? It's a film not a person. -Mushy Yank. 19:15, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: See precedent AfD and arguments presented by User:DareshMohan, for example. A redirect seems warranted anyway (same comment) so that I am opposed to deletion. -Mushy Yank. 19:01, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Freelance journalist/blogger, Brand promoted content and an article from an unknown website with no byline? Can you please read the nomination statement and WP:NFILM guideline once again and consider revising your rationale to a policy based one instead of how you feel about deletion? Here are some more PR articles that they have given out: [25], [26], [27] Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 20:30, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Can you please read DareshMohan's argument? Gujarat is not a "country" but I consider the film meets NFILM's inclusionary criterion #3, if you really wish me to provide a link to a guideline. I'll stand by my !vote, if I may. I've added a couple of things to the page, rapidly. -Mushy Yank. 20:59, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    All you have added so far is just brand promoted content, routine coverage and passing mentions with no bylines. Nearly five years on Wikipedia, yet how you interpret WP:NFIC to fit your own views is astonishing.
    Here, "distributed domestically in a country" means distributed within India. This film didn't see the light outside Gujarat and we are not maintaining a database of films released in India, but rather of notable films released in India. Comparing WP:NFIC#3's weight of a film being released/distributed domestically in a country is nowhere close to that of a film being distributed within a state. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:10, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "didn't see the light outside Gujarat" is an absurd rationale. Indian cinema, being the largest producer of films globally, comprises multiple industries based on language and regional distinctions. The subject here being included in the Gujarati cinema, though less prominent than its counterparts like Bollywood or Tollywood, is still a significant part of this spectrum. Drawing a comparison between Gujarati cinema and the broader, more commercially dominant segments of Indian cinema is flawed. Keep in mind that Wikipedia:Notability is not a level playing field. — MimsMENTOR talk 07:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Don't bring essays here. If you want to change existing policies, start an RFC at Wikipedia talk:Notability (films).
    The current guidelines only support films that are successfully distributed domestically in a country that is not a major film-producing country. You have contradicted yourself by mentioning "Indian cinema, being the largest producer of films globally". WP:NFIC#3 does not apply to major film producing countries and if Saiyar Mori Re were a significant part of this spectrum, it would have received reviews in reliable sources. Instead, it only has paid PR. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:57, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep your tone out! this is a discussion space, essays, statements, facts and all are legit here. — MimsMENTOR talk 09:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: It seems the nominator has completely overlooked sources from TOI and other reputable outlets (which still lack full consensus on reliability). With that, giving an additional consideration and collectively reviewing the coverage's from the sources from TOI, TOI 2, TOI 3, One India and from the Gujarati media: navgujaratsamay, gujaratheadline and abtakmedia as well as the film's feature at the International Gujarati Film Festival 2023 is enough for notability.--— MimsMENTOR talk 09:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • TOI - Interview / Not independent / Pre-release coverage - Jun 14, 2022 (Part of PR)
    • One India - Partner content as indicated at the top - July 14, 2022 (Part of PR)
    • navgujaratsamay - Press release from trailer launch - Jun 27 (Part of PR)
    • gujaratheadline - Same as navgujaratsamay article / Press release from trailer launch - Jun 25 (Part of PR)
    • abtakmedia - Same as above / Press release from trailer launch - July 04, 2022
    • International Gujarati Film Festival 2023 - Trivial mention / no awards
    None of the above news media outlets covered or reviewed the film after its release. It seems you have overlooked both the sources and the nomination rationale. Would you mind sharing your source analysis below? Mims Mentor Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:14, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jeraxmoira Before diving into a source analysis, could you clarify or provide evidence for your claim that each of all sources mentioned are "(part of PR)"? — MimsMENTOR talk 11:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The lack of coverage following the film's release is sufficient evidence. Apart from that, the OneIndia article is marked as "Partner Content". As for the trailer launch, inviting all the news media is standard practice and has been done this way consistently. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:39, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I see your point about the "partner content", I do agree with that. However, when I emphasized the need for "collective reviewing" and "additional consideration" of the sources. I recognize that the coverage may not be strong enough to 'firmly keep' the article, but your own analysis doesn't solidly push for deletion either, leaning more towards WP:BARE. As for PR evidence, there isn't concrete proof to back up that claim you made (when you are talking about policies). Pre-release/press release (earned media) coverage isn’t inherently promotional, and reputable outlets like TOI often feature pre-release interviews without the coverage being purely PR-driven. — MimsMENTOR talk 12:40, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You are bringing in more essays to XfDs. Please understand that essays are not P&G and hold no significant value in XfDs. The TOI sources are insufficient for a standalone article, especially given that there are literally zero reviews available. There are three articles about the trailer launch featuring the same banner image, yet you believe this isn't sufficient evidence that the press was invited to the event. The sources here are nowhere close to meeting GNG or NFILM. If you disagree, please provide a source analysis that might help me better understand your point of view. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Essays arent binding, but they offer relevant interpretations in debates like XfDs, especially for borderline cases. Dismissing them outright doesnt negate their value in offering nuance. The TOI sources, while not extensive, still provide verifiable coverage. Prerelease coverage is common, even for non-blockbuster films. Moreover, you havent fully explained why multiple outlets covering the same trailer launch definitively proves PR involvement. The case is WP:BARE now. I believe I’ve made it clear what aspects of the discussion align with GNG, based on policy guidelines. The nominator seems fixated on a single point and dismisses valid considerations by labeling them "essays," which is unproductive. Since the conversation is going in circles, I’ll be stepping back. I suggest exploring more sources from Gujarati media to verify additional coverage of the film instead of narrowing the focus to a single angle.--— MimsMENTOR talk 14:07, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    So, no source analysis? Cool. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Why? to count in more essay? Sorry No! — MimsMENTOR talk 15:02, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: These sources can be used to write an article, but they certainly do not meet the standards required to establish GNG and there are no sources available after the film's release. Regarding WP:NFILM, there are literally no reviews for this film, despite it being released in the internet era. The fact that all the sources below greatly appreciate the film, its songs, trailer and its success, yet none of them have published a review, is quite amusing.
Source assessment table:
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movie-details/saiyar-mori-re/movieshow/92209803.cms Yes Yes No ✘ No
https://www.aninews.in/news/business/business/k-brothers-produced-saiyar-mori-re-wins-the-hearts-of-the-audience-as-anticipated-after-the-trailer-release20220713132245/ No Story is provided by GPRC (Global PR Connect) ? Yes ✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/saiyar-mori-re-new-song-manda-lidha-mohi-raj-is-winning-hearts-on-the-internet/articleshow/92653580.cms No Entertainment Desk / No byline Yes Yes ✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/mayur-chauhan-on-saiyar-mori-re-i-am-feeling-akhand-mauj-exclusive/articleshow/92200116.cms No Interview Yes Yes ✘ No
https://www.zee5.com/articles/k-brothers-produced-saiyar-mori-re-wins-the-hearts-of-the-audience-as-anticipated-after-the-trailer-release No Story is provided by GPRC (Global PR Connect) ? Yes ✘ No
https://www.newindianexpress.com/entertainment/2022/Jul/08/meet-kariyas-saiyar-mori-re-celebrates-rural-flavours-of-india-2474459.html No Express News Service / No byline Yes ~ ✘ No
https://www.oneindia.com/partner-content/jay-kariyas-debut-film-saiyar-mori-re-is-out-now-and-the-audience-can-t-get-enough-of-it-3433537.html No Partner content ? ✘ No
https://www.mynation.com/entertainment/film-saiyar-mori-re-wins-over-the-audience-despite-its-experimental-approach-filmmakers-express-sigh-snt-reuiuy No featured content / No byline ? ✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/watch-saiyar-mori-re-makers-will-soon-drop-a-teaser/articleshow/92082623.cms No Entertainment Desk / No byline Yes Yes ✘ No
https://www.ahmedabadmirror.com/gujarati-films-go-global/81859967.html Yes Yes No Passing mention ✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/mayur-chauhan-unveils-the-first-look-of-his-saiyar-mori-re/articleshow/92034340.cms No Interview Yes No Routine coverage from an Instagram Post ✘ No
https://navgujaratsamay.com/love-story-based-film-saiyar-mori-re--a-turning-point-in-the-gujarati-film-industrys-history/221700.html No Trailer launch press release ? Yes ✘ No
https://www.gujaratheadline.com/%e0%aa%b9%e0%aa%b0%e0%aa%bf-%e0%aa%95%e0%aa%b0%e0%ab%87-%e0%aa%8f-%e0%aa%b8%e0%aa%be%e0%aa%9a%e0%ab%81/ No Trailer launch press release ? Yes ✘ No
https://www.abtakmedia.com/god-do-is-the-best-rural-areas-love-story-sayer-mori-re/ No Abtak Media / No byline ? Yes ✘ No
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/gujarati/movies/news/the-international-gujarati-film-festival-igff-returns-with-its-4th-edition-in-chicago-usa-this-year-exclusive/articleshow/101098950.cms Yes Yes No Passing mention ✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

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Kamna Pathak

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Kamna Pathak (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Looking at the sources, it does not pass WP:GNG even. Mostly all the sources available on google are discussing her replacement in a notable show, see [28], [29], [30]. Taabii (talk) 13:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • The sources are quite poor and not independent of the subject with claims and interviews. Subject fails the criteria for WP:NACTOR who did not have significant roles in "multiple" notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions; or made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. RangersRus (talk) 16:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The sources are reliable, and the subject is well-researched with verifiable claims.
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Bhavishya Malika Puran

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I propose taking action on the article "Bhavishya Malika Puran" as it solely presents propaganda spread by news channels for financial gain. Context: The article is highly disputed, and its accuracy as a translation of the original Bhavishya Malika remains unverified. News channels have extensively covered this topic, primarily repeating the claims made by the Pandit. Unfortunately, the errors in this translated book, which appears to be motivated by financial interests, have gone unchallenged. Having carefully examined the book and its issues, I recommend one of the following actions: 1. Archive the article until credible evidence supporting its claims is provided. Or 2. Add a disclaimer to the article stating that it is a controversial issue and establish a Reception section to present a balanced view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kharavela Deva (talk • contribs) 12:06, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sanjay Kumar Verma

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This article is clearly not ready for mainspace but a new user has now move-warred to keep it in mainspace from draft.

Sourcing in the article is inadequate for a BLP and are mostly primary sources. Better to continue to incubate in draft, if not delete outright per the last AfD's consensus. ―"Ghost of Dan Gurney" (hihi) 11:24, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there!I was the new user that "move-warred" to keep this article in mainspace. This article is based on the article for Escott Reid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escott_Reid, however it contains more sources.
All sources are vetted and from the Indian government (2 articles), neutral sources (1 article) or press (2 articles).
Beyond the article,
I moved the page to article, ghostofdangurrey moved it to draft, I removed an uncited sentence and moved it to article (which I assumed was the best way to work based on the details from the help articles). While I understand if there is room for improvement, gatekeeping editing and using words like move-warred (when I apologized for moving it following a comment), is an interesting way to moderate. Researchmoreorless (talk) 12:15, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sudheer Dara

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I tried to fixed the page, but i failed to fix the notability. He is an ulelected politician, fails WP:NPOL. Looking at WP:GNG, some articles including ABP News [32] looks like advertisement as it is published in Brand Wire section. Other article and citations also needs to be checked. Taabii (talk) 14:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Naved Aslam (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NACTOR. Unsourced BLP. No indication of significance. Fails WP:SIGCOV scope_creepTalk 14:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mangral

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Article is entirely unsourced and poorly written. The underlying purpose of the article seems to be to glorify the community rather than write an encyclopaedic article. The books detailed at the bottom of the article don't seem particularly reliable either and no page numbers are provided. Ixudi (talk) 18:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

4meter4. Hope other editors also chip in because it's a lengthy article that somehow ended up without any References....Ngrewal1 (talk) 02:34, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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No idea why outsiders having zero knowledge about the tribe and it's people are so worried about "references" when those are already mentioned, not to mention someone entionedua reference classifying us s Dogras (whofare also Rajputs) rom a book published in 2008 kek RajaAtiqMangral (talk) 00:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No idea why outsiders having zero knowledge about the tribe and it's people are so worried about "references" when those are already mentioned, not to mention someone gave a reference classifying us as Dogras (who are also Rajputs mind you) from a book published in 2008 kek* RajaAtiqMangral (talk) 00:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: This has been tagged since 2011 with no changes to the sourcing, delete it and be done with it. These articles with no sourcing don't help build trust in Wikipedia projects. Draftifying this when it's been tagged since 2011 won't help it. Oaktree b (talk) 01:53, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iddaru (2024)

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Duplicate article of another one that exists hidden in the page history of Iddaru (2024 film), which is clearly about the same film, though it isn't entirely clear why that article was BLARed. Both articles should be merged if kept. CycloneYoris talk! 08:19, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is Oppanda Kannada Language Movie releaseed in 2022, But Iddaru is remake Movie in Telugu Languagw Movie. The Iddaru (2024 film) can be Murged or redirected to this article Sudheerbs (talk) 08:27, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CycloneYoris: can you explain what are the reasons for deletion for this article?
The history seems to be
@TSventon: I haven't expressed any desire to delete this article, and brought it to AfD mainly because of the duplicate article that exists, which is why I suggested to merge it with the existing one. CycloneYoris talk! 22:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Had this discussion before, this is a kannada movie dubbed in telugu and @Dareshmohan has confirmed this. So, we can merge with Oppanda article and mention iddaru is its telugu version comment added by Herodyswaroop (talk • contribs) 12:13, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As per the comment at the Indian cinema taskforce here, even if they are reshot partially, it still doesn’t need a separate article. If we are to delve into original research, they reshot a single dialogue in Telugu here vs the original here. The makers of the film were smart enough to release the same trailer as the original version. Complete with English dialogues, only the English dialogues would be in lip sync. When the trailer itself lacks lip sync, do you expect the film to be a straight film?
Regarding the Telugu wiki, even dubbed Telugu films get an article there. Apart from Hindi, since the 1990s several films have been dubbed in Telugu and became mainstream. DareshMohan (talk) 20:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this is telugu stright film,this film made by telugu tamil and Kannada langues, each and every shot shooted in three langueges. Pandu147 (talk) 18:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't delete this one This movie is indian telugu language movie. AND PLZ ACTIVATE IT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandu147 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shalabam

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Fails WP:NFILM. No reliable reviews from Rediff.com and Sify.com [35]. The only 2 reliable sources are passing mentions. DareshMohan (talk) 06:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mayur Chauhan

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Subject was twice declined in AfC and also fails NACTOR, as the subject has not had significant roles in notable films or shows. There is no significant coverage in reliable, independent sources apart from the WP:OR added by User:Saurang Vara who denies any COI despite being familiar with the subject's personal information. The subject's role in Chhello Divas does not appear to be significant and none of the other films have substantial content to be considered when evaluating Mayur Chauhan according to NACTOR. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What makes you say his 3 roles in productions that have a page on this WP are not significant? And why should Karsandas Pay & Use be considered non-notable? I found some coverage about Saiyar Mori Re too. He seems to meet WP:NACTOR, -Mushy Yank. 13:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The mentioned films do not meet WP:NFOE/ WP:NFILM. Karsandas Pay & Use has two reviews, one from TOI with an unknown critic and another from an unknown website. Saiyar Mori Re has no reception section and Samandar (film) has two local reviews! From a WP:BEFORE search, none of these films have been distributed outside Gujarat. Just because these films have articles on Wikipedia does not mean they are notable in the first place to be used as evaluation criteria for Mayur Chauhan. Either way, there is zero coverage of the subject in reliable independent sources. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:53, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If a critic writes for a national publication such as Times of India he is considered nationally known as per discussions at WP:NFILM Atlantic306 (talk) 01:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discusisons on What is a "nationally-known critic"? and "Nationally-known critic" as it relates to films of India aren't closed and there is no consensus either. Let me know if I have missed any archived discussions. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussions are ended and there is a clear consensus Atlantic306 (talk) 23:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For argument's sake, even if the not-yet-closed discussion is considered as consensus for what you have claimed, there is still only one review in a national publication. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:36, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete: Subject is likely to have worked in multiple movies but the lead role is uncertain and significant coverage in independent reliable sources is not available. Zuck28 (talk) 22:51, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am very sorry but the fact that he had at least 3 lead roleS is absolutely not "uncertain”. -Mushy Yank. 03:53, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Deleting this article would remove recognition of an individual who has played a role in the growth of regional cinema. Efforts should be made to improve the article with verifiable sources rather than deleting it. Regional actors often have a lasting impact that may not always be widely covered by mainstream media, but this should not disqualify their inclusion on Wikipedia. Saurang Vara (talk) 05:43, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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