Talk:Barack Obama (horse)

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• ... that Barack Obama was euthanized?

• ALT1: ... that Barack Obama was an Anglo-Arabian? Source: https://www.goupstate.com/story/news/2018/09/14/horse-named-barack-obama-euthanized-at-world-equestrian-games/10274313007/
• ALT2: ... that Barack Obama died at the age of 20? Source: https://www.goupstate.com/story/news/2018/09/14/horse-named-barack-obama-euthanized-at-world-equestrian-games/10274313007/
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lee Dong-hwan (pastor)
• Comment: Personally, ALT0 is my favorite hook.

Di (they-them) (talk) 16:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Well, this definitely won't lead to anyone freaking out when opening the Main Page. No, seriously, I love the original hook, and the other two are good backup alternatives if anyone wants to limit the surprise effect to more reasonable levels. Regarding the article, it's new enough, long enough, well-sourced enough and copyvio-free, and includes the content of ALT0 and ALT1. No WP:BLP (or should it be WP:BDH?) issues as far as I can see.

Only one very esoteric thing to note: all horses are traditionally registered with a date of birth of "January 1st", even if they were born later in the year, so the article technically doesn't have the information that he died at age 20 beyond the age template (should {{Death date and age}} have a variant for horses?). Either way, that's pretty much a non-issue, and the DYK is approved! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

After a little more research, it looks like I was mistaken, and horse age is also calculated from January 1. So the information is enough to say that the horse was "20 years old" for horse purposes, even if it might not have lived 20 literal years. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 16:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Di (they-them), are you willing for this to wait for WP:DYKAPRIL? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:18, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29: Sure, that's fine with me. Di (they-them) (talk) 18:27, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I want to ask to update this hook and merge this nomination with Template:Did you know nominations/Kamala (elephant). I'm not really sure what the procedure for that is. Di (they-them) (talk) 21:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• ALT3: ... that Barack Obama and Kamala were both euthanized?

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Stuff Matters, Template:Did you know nominations/The Catholic Spirit

Copying from Kamala's DYKN, Kamala needs a review. Thanks, charlotte ^👸♥📱 04:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Di (they-them), Chaotic Enby, AirshipJungleman29, Queen of Hearts, and Queen of Hearts mobile: Will do this after I've slept, ping me if I forget.--Launchballer 01:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What makes Kamala notable? Of the seven references, the first six are nothing other than 'she died' and the seventh doesn't mention the elephant. I don't see WP:SUSTAINED coverage.--Launchballer 14:11, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Di (they-them), Chaotic Enby, Queen of Hearts, and Queen of Hearts mobile: Please address the above.--Launchballer 14:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping, and yes it is indeed a good point to consider. I did find these 2014 Washington Post articles ([1], [2]) on the transfer of Kamala (and two other elephants) from Calgary to Washington, D.C., although I leave it to your judgement to decide whether that is enough to meet WP:SUSTAINED. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 14:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll echo Chaotic Enby (thanks for finding those btw), I think the 2014 sources establish sustained notability. Di (they-them) (talk) 16:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: charlotte ^👸♥ 05:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think so as well. This is long enough, new enough and the QPQ's done (The Catholic Spirit, haven't checked Stuff Matters). Hook checks out; the Washington Post is paywalled, but it checks out to the Smithsonian and to WJLA. I see no reason why this might deserve a maintenance template; an Earwig check shows several WP:LIMITED phrases.--Launchballer 11:47, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, it just occurred to me that the euthanasia hook might be a BLP issue. Since this has until April, I'll add a less potentially offensive alt:

ALT4 ... that Barack Obama was a horse and Kamala was an elephant?

Di (they-them) (talk) 01:11, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

this hook is also fine (this article was talked about in a Discord server, but a review was not requested). charlotte ^👸♥ 01:15, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]