Talk:Love Me Tender (song)

Does it make sense for us to credit Presley and Matson if it's undisputed that Darby (and Poulton) are the true authors? Or is it our policy to have our "writers" credit reflect the copyright credits? --Allen 01:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

The material about Presley getting co-writing credits on other songs, and this happening in general is very interesting, but I think it belongs in another article. It could be expanded into an article itself, even. Bubba73 (talk), 20:45, 10 May 2008 (UTC)Reply

Julinda Stambolliu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.78.67.171 (talk) 14:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, so I deleted:

"(Of course, non–writers getting songwriting credit for pop songs has a long tradition. Johnny Mercer, writing in his unpublished autobiography about beginning songwriters in New York when he started in 1930, says

Little did they (the prospective songwriters) dream of the . . . paylola that those sweeter–than–light vaudeville stars got; or of the cut–ins, the kickback of the music business where a big entertainer got his or her name on a song as co–writer and—forever thereafter—got a share of the royalties "either now in existence or yet to be invented." The lawyers had every contingency covered, then as now. ^[1]

"For years, Duke Ellington's agent, Irving Mills, was listed as a co–writer of Ellington's music, although he never wrote a note. And there are many other examples. See also the discussion of "Stompin' at the Savoy" at Savoy Ballroom.)

"Ken Darby had worked on many movie scores in Hollywood. This was his first collaboration with Elvis Presley. Elvis Presley was involved in all phases of the creation of this song, as well as the three other soundtrack songs, "Let Me", "We're Gonna Move", and "Poor Boy". "Love Me Tender" was published by Elvis Presley Music.^[2]

"Ken Darby won three Academy Awards for musical scores for movies, The King and I, Porgy and Bess, and Camelot. He also won a Grammy for Porgy and Bess. He began his career as the vocal arranger for the movie The Wizard of Oz in 1939. Darby was responsible for creating the vocal score for the Munchkin songs in The Wizard of Oz by slowing down the vocals and then meshing them with the film speed."

and

"Presley did co-write two songs, however, although he was not the principal composer: "That's Someone You Never Forget" with Red West in 1961 and "You'll Be Gone" with Red West and Charlie Hodge in 1962, although his contributions were in the form of song ideas and coming up with the subject matter or theme of the songs and the title."

as off-topic. If somebody wants to add it someplace appropriate, say Song royalties, feel free. TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 21:52, 21 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

my name is Orrilea named after aunt Orrie and Aunt Lea. Orri or Ora is an old spelling of (americanized) Aura which means "golden maiden" and Lea meaning "small sunny valley" therefore my name is "golden maiden of the small sunny valley" just more insight.

The article says "so its music is credited to American composer George R. Poulton." Poulton wrote the music, but every copy I've seen of the actual record (including one as late as 1992) just says Presley and Matson. Should the article say its credited to Poulton when it doesn't seem to be? Or should it say "by George Poulton and Ken Darby, but credited to Elvis Presley and Vera Matson"? Carlo (talk) 22:58, 8 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

In the article Susie Q, for example, the infobox lists the official songwriting credits, even though they include people who didn't actually participate in the songwriting. Similarly, The Beatles' songs are credited to Lennon and McCartney, even though it's well known that many of them were actually written by only one of them. In my opinion, this is how it should be, as official songwriting credits are verifiable and generally undisputed. The question of who "really" wrote a song is a slippery slope that easily leads to original research ("X claimed in an interview in 1997 that Y didn't really participate in writing song Z.") Such things can be mentioned in the body text if appropriately sourced, but the infobox should reflect the official credits. Jah77 (talk) 16:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply