User talk:Blackngold29/Archive 3

Congratulations on the GA. Glad to have been of service. – Scartol • Tok 11:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Only had 97 points: Template:2007–08 NHL Western Conference standings. Grsz^talk 11:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure! You can write the lead if you would like. Thanks for the help. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie ^{( talk / contribs)} 21:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I could be a Sir, as I have a Knight in my background, hence my possible (very) distant relationship to User:Wknight94. The Old Dutchman is one of my favorite players, i.e. one of those that I'd like to watch playing the game if I had a time machine; and I agree that the article has had little justice done to it, considering Wagner was the "greatest star" of his day, according to Ty Cobb, no less, and was a charter member of the Hall of Fame. I also have to admit that I don't know that much about the details of Wagner's life. Maybe it's time I learned. There are lengthy articles about Cobb and Ruth, but seemingly not much more than bare bones about Wagner. There was a lot more to his career than his rare baseball card. This is not the best time, as I have a trip coming up. But go to the WP:Baseball page and pose the same challenge you put on my page and see if anyone bites. P.S. Willie Stargell was one of my favorite players also, except I actually got to see him play from time to time. And even if he did kill my Cubs in a crucial game in 1969. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 02:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll be on the road until about mid-June. So, are you old enough to have seen "Pops" play? The thing is, I like home run hitters, and he hit some serious tape measure blows, long before there was anything called "steroids" circulating around the big leagues. I think he cleared the Forbes Field roof like 15 times in the relatively short time he played there before Three Rivers opened. And I may be wrong, but I think he launched a few into the upper deck at Three Rivers, which was not so easy to do. Back to Wagner, there is a biography from a few years back that I should re-read and learn more. But there should be plenty of sources around otherwise. I guess the dilemma with Wagner is that he retired before baseball became really "big" in the post-WWI era. Cobb played through most of the roaring twenties, so he was well-covered. And Wagner wasn't a maniac like Cobb, so he didn't get as much press, I reckon. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 02:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

That's the bio I was talking about. I would think it would provide most of the basics needed for the article. And don't wait on me, or anyone else - go for it. As for the Pirates, they have had serious ups and downs in their history. Unfortunately, in recent years they've been like they were in the late 1940s / early 1950s, when they had Ralph Kiner and almost literally nothing else, and lost a lot of games. But Branch Rickey worked some magic on those Pirates, just as he had on the Dodgers and the Cardinals before then, and it eventually paid off, although Rickey himself wasn't with the team by then. The first World Series I remember is 1960, although I didn't see Game 7 live because all the games were in the daytime in those days and that one was on a Thursday. However, Maz instantly became one of my favorite players, and I got tearful when he was finally inducted into the Hall of Fame (he got a bit tearful also). He was an excellent player. Clemente, though, was one of the all-time greats. He could hit for both power and average, and was deadly from right field if a runner tried to stretch to an extra base. What might he have further accomplished had he not boarded that overloaded plane trying to help in the Guatemalan relief effort? Anyway, in my lifetime I'm used to seeing the Pirates as winners, and it's really painful what has happened to them (kind of like what happened to the Orioles, another favorite). At least you've got DVD's and films to watch. The glory years of my Cubs were practically before film was invented. :( Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 03:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I won't have time to do anything with this until at least mid-June, so go for it. Wagner seems to have been a well-centered guy. Reminds me of some of the stories I've read about probably the greatest Cubs pitcher of all time, and another of my favorites, Mordecai Brown. He knew how good he was, but didn't get too full of himself, and was accessible to fans. Wagner was before my time. I've had the pleasure of meeting Hall-of-Famer Bob Feller a couple of times. Very down-to-earth guy, not only signing autographs (as he was paid to do at these promotions) but also chatting a bit, talking about the old days. A true brush with greatness. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 01:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

There is a arbitration regarding Chrijnelson over at WP:Arbitration.Fromos (talk) 19:39, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

What, again? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 19:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

hi yes i researched about slipknot and dimmu borgir and actually they played together already in august of 2005 if you go to painkillermag.com and search up dimmu borgir interveiw in english , but didn't find anything about them going to play with slipknot . people have already heard about this on wiki and started making blogs asking if its true that dimmu borgir is playing with them , but so far people have only been responding with crap

thx

Can I assume you're in the process of composing something to put in its place? Dppowell (talk) 21:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Disregard; I see what you did now. Just saw a big ol' red change on my watchlist and thought I'd investigate. Nice work. Dppowell (talk) 21:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, thank you, thank you, etc. For making sure the diacritics remained hidden on the players names. Oh, did I say thank you? GoodDay (talk) 22:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I noticed you had an edit history with the current roster, idk why but it won't let me edit it, if you get a chance to fix the roster- Jared Boll is listed as born in IL but he was actaully born in Charlotte, NC. Thanks so much! --Bhockey10 (talk) 01:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help that worked! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhockey10 (talk • contribs) 02:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey. I recently added Christopher Lee onto the cast list, but then you removed him. What you didn't know is that it has been said on Christopher Lee's website's fourm that Christopher Lee IS returning as Count Dooku on the new animated Star Wars film. Here's what the administrator of the fourm said: "Mr. Lee has recorded the voice of Count Dooku for this movie a couple of months ago. It was however, the first time he had to lip synch to a character because they had produced the animation before recording his voice." --User:24.81.112.42 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Regarding addressing issues at the FAC, if you feel up to it, you're welcome to give it a shot. I'll help out where I can, but the FAC reviewers have gotten much stricter than they were a few months ago, especially on video game related articles. If I had more time, I'd say let's do it with or without David, but I don't really have that liberty right now. So I hope you don't take offense if I'd feel more comfortable with David helping out since he's been participating and keeping up in FACs throughout the whole tightening of the criteria and is one of the more knowledgeable Halo editors.

PS- I hope this didn't come across as condescending or rude as that was not my intent. I'm just worried that it may be more than just the two of us can handle, and I know the FAC reviewers have been complaining about ill-prepared video game articles taking up resources at FAC. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 20:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC))

Like I said, if you think it can make it, go for it. I know there are a lot more MoS issues than the ones brought up right now. I'll help out as best I can, but I know for a fact that the next week and a half for me will not provide me with much free time. More editors helping would really be a good safety net, and as you said, extra sets of fresh eyes would be a good asset. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 21:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC))

You probably already noticed, but David is willing to help out. I'll do what I can too. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 21:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC))

The article is put on hold. Thank you. --Efe (talk) 07:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Almost there. Best Wishes. =) --Efe (talk) 07:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for the comments you made at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Eric Brewer (ice hockey). I've addressed your concerns and was hoping you could have another look at the article to see if it warrants your support! Thanks. – Nurmsook! (talk) 04:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on having earned your first WP:FL during the last month. You may be interested in nominating your list for consideration as August LOTM and LOTD. It would also be great if you would consider voting on the current set of candidates for consideration as July LOTM and LOTD.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:50, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks B&G for adding your comments to the discussion page. They were much more helpful than some others have been. It's really appreciated! Macduffman (talk) 19:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Section 327, Row Y...I'll be there. It's the Yankees! Grsz^talk 03:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It's beyond rational though dude. It's gonna be harder for editors to keep it deleted. Maybe even us, you know. If it does get deleted I'll accept it, I'm just trying to make them see how stupid it is. REZTER ^TALK ø 22:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I wonder why nobody has made any more comments since I challenged his statement. Do you think they're afraid to admit they're wrong? REZTER ^TALK ø 23:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey man, I don't want an edit war or nothing over this, but I'm almost certain Slipknot's ex-guitarist Josh Brainard was the band's original #4. Your statement of being pretty sure the band members weren't numbered while Josh was still in the band got me interested in trying to confirm it (I've heard about how Greg Welts was the original #3, and how Sid was the last musician of his specialty to join, prompting his choice number to come down either #0 or #9 since he wasn't assuming a departing member's number). Anyways, I found a few pictures of Josh in his jumpsuit, clearly sporting on his shoulder a circle with something inside, but most images were from an angle where you can only assume the features of a "4". Then I found this photo. Again, it isn't a full-on "4", but you can clearly see the right half of the number, worn by a guitarist masked by a bondage hood. James Root had his hair colored pink during the time he was using Josh's mask, so it couldn't be him. What do you think? Vixen Windstorm (talk) 03:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, those are some good points. You're right about probably inciting confusion with multiple people listed with the same number, on the same album. If we can be sure about his or any other former member's number, it's probably something notable on their respective articles, but as for personnel sections, I don't really know how we should go about it. If his number is correct, Josh would be the dominant #4 of the album, as he recorded every song except the removed "Purity", but was uncredited; James recorded only one song, and any pressing of the album beyond December '99 does not feature him at all, despite being credited. I seriously hate contradictions like these... Hah. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 04:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I've been rewriting the articles for band members over the last few days, and up next is Shawn whenever I have the patience later on. But anyways, I'll get to rewriting the former members' articles as well once I get there. Even if you guys end up choosing to merge their articles, I'm just saying that if their size is or the way they read is the problem, I'll definitely be reworking them soon enough. In my opinion they should read like traditional Slipknot members (Personal life and career, Masks, Discography sections, etc), which at the moment they don't look very well put together. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 04:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hah yeah, Craig's took the most work, ironically since he's the most mysterious member. I did some rewriting and expansion of the MFKR article too a few days ago, but I don't know what else I could contribute. Good luck on getting it GA-certified though. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 04:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay just to follow up, I finished the re-writes for the members' articles. Some of the former members' articles were kind of tough since people like Donnie Steele have pretty much less of a background than Craig, hah. I'm just going through the genres of the articles now, but that's nothing major. Just one thing, do you think that the equipment used by the members are notable? Some of them, particularly on Joey's article, are just run-on, bulleted lists that are hardly encyclopedic. I dunno, what do you think? Vixen Windstorm (talk) 23:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

kk I'll have a look at that page. And as for genres, I'm just taking the genres from albums the members appeared on, and for outside bands of current and former members, and filling them in the genre field of each member's articles. That way there shouldn't be too much trouble with that, unless someone snuck a completely inaccurate genre into one of the albums/outside band articles, but if so I'm sure I'll pick up on that lol. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 23:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

And as for the additional credits, in the case of MFKR, the album credits Sean McMahon and Frank Plumley as providing "Dogfish Rising" verses. On mfkr1.com, I was reading about how Shawn did his "Buffalo Bill" bit for the song, and sure enough towards the end of the song, an "It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again," and such are clearly audible, so I figured he should get the credit on the personnel section as well. In the case of Vol. 3, to my knowledge Shawn provided the additional vocals heard in the full-length cut of "Danger – Keep Away". Vixen Windstorm (talk) 00:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean "they"? The contributions Shawn made, or his contributions along with McMahon and Plumley's? Because the latter two are cited in the liner notes of MFKR, though Shawn wasn't; then again there were far more than two or three contributors to "Dogfish Rising". I just came upon the mention of Shawn as having done the Buffalo Bill verse which actually appears in the song, and included it in the article. Mfkr1 isn't too far fetched, but then again do you have an idea of who runs the site? Vixen Windstorm (talk) 00:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Hours later lol, but I cited Shawn's confirmation of doing vocals on the full-length version of "Danger - Keep Away". I also used the same interview as a citation in Shawn's article for his having taken credit for the band's use of masks and jumpsuits, and for coining the term "maggot" (it was a very interesting interview lol). I'm gonna look into the "Dogfish Rising" sources next. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 04:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I found a mention of it on black-goat.com, along with Paul, but other than that, I don't think I can find an interview, or such source mentioning these contributions. It would have to be an old statement, considering the band hardly even comment on the album in interviews, or refer to the band's situation at the time, instead of specifically what went on during the actual recording of MFKR. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 05:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I don't know, I don't think it's necessarily overkill. I just think that Shawn's vocal contributions to the songs (especially "Danger" since we have a pretty good source for that one) are notable, that's all. Vixen Windstorm (talk) 05:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

The above article has been reviewed for Good Article status, the concerns have been raised here.--SRX^--LatinoHeat 01:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I have responded to your questions.--SRX^--LatinoHeat 01:49, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome. Congrats on the   passing of Terrible Towel--SRX^--LatinoHeat 21:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I have sources which I can base both "Recording of" and "Music and lyrics" on, don't worry about that. I think we should do a "legacy" section though which just describes the album/demo debate and maybe how valuable it is, those kind of things. REZTER ^TALK ø 09:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Haha that was the smoothest fucking one so far my man, we've got a nice format for the album articles going. Tomorrow I'll get sourcing out some shit for the MFKR article, we'll tidy that fucker up and stop all the rumours and edit wars people don't like fucking with tidy articles, after that I propose we do 9.0 Live and then maybe move on to the DVDs. It's cool to have at least one dedicated editor to work with man, much better than working alone. We make a good team lol, we're practically the Slipknot Wikiproject tbh. Anyway man, good work. REZTER ^TALK ø 02:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey sorry about saying I'd get started on this article and not doing it I've been really busy over the past few days but I should be able to do something within the next few days. Oh and yeah if anybody recreates the Crowz article just put a speedy delete template on it to say it's just a recreated article. REZTER ^TALK ø 11:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

What's up man... I've jsut written the musical themes section on MFKR... the only thing we need now I think is the intro expanding, I'm not really good at intros I end up repeating myself lol maybe you could do that and then we could submit it for a GA. REZTER ^TALK ø 17:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I was thinking the same thing about the External Links, as my dad once said "If in doubt pull it out" roflmao. Yeah we'll do 9.0 Live next. I'm working on rehauling the Roadrunner Records Demo album right now too. I'm just sourcing it and making it cleaner, it will never be GA quality. REZTER ^TALK ø 20:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I have sources, just not ENOUGH information to make it a GA. You know your article doesn't need to be a GA to warrant itself an article... I think it should stay seperate... it's just easier. REZTER ^TALK ø 20:22, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm delighted to see this at GA. I loved the article - congratulations. Brianboulton (talk) 09:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I found two GA of live albums and I've sited some sources at my sandbox User:Rezter/Sandbox... you know what we could just do this article without even making an AoF man it's nearly done ffs. I think I'll get started on a production section, but it may help to have all the dates and locations the recordings are from. REZTER ^TALK ø 23:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah man those Flickr pics have been there for a long time I uploaded them before but they were removed because apparently the stage designed (screens and banners) are copyrighted material. REZTER ^TALK ø 09:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Giggy has posted a GA review of Halo Original Soundtrack. As you nominated it, I thought you might want to take care of it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 14:57, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure they are gone, but you can use the wayback machine maybe to find something. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 16:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

We have to wait for Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team's bot to start collecting the information before we can use one of them. It updates once every 3 days. REZTER ^TALK ø 17:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Yupppr. REZTER ^TALK ø 17:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there are any band member lsits which are FL. But I used the same format Metallica band members and Slayer band members. REZTER ^TALK ø 18:45, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

About WTON... I don't have much at all on it, seriously. I think it will be just like Slipknot Demo... put it this way I have less info on WTON than I do that demo. All I have really are sources to back up whatever is already in that article. I suppose we could make a Reception section discussing the fact it hit number one of the billboard video charts and that.. and also about it going platinum. We also need a Release History section... I have both versions so don't worry about that. I guess we could turn the info regarding its contents in to prose maybe.. like a "Content" section or something with a better name. I can't find no reviews though, I even looked through my stack of mags that were dated around that time. I don't think this needs to an AoF now that I think of it. I'm not sure what we should put up for AoF next. REZTER ^TALK ø 00:19, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I've done all I can with the Welcome to Our Neighborhood article and I think it only meets C class because the sections are so short due to a lack of sources. It's incredible, I never realised how little this has been talked about. Anyway, we don't need all articles to be GA standard you know. We just have to know that they are well written, factually right and sourced well. We may as well just focus on AHIP, psychosocial and MFKR and 9.0 live as they are GAC right now before we decide upon the next AoF but I suggest we do Disasterpieces, I'm sure we'll have enough sources for that. REZTER ^TALK ø 15:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I was just wondering... why have we still got MFKR as a AoF? Do we need to keep it an AoF? You know it's done basically... yes we will have to make alterations per the review (when it comes through) but we can move the focus to Disasterpieces now can't we? REZTER ^TALK ø 19:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Thought I'd give you one of these since you gave me one before and you certainly deserve it man... we make a good team (in the name of WP:SLIP lol).

OK while I'm here I was thinking about the past members thing and I think we should make a section of prose name "Past members" on the Slipknot band members and remove all their respective articles because I think it's better to have a really good article (ie Slipknot band members) than to have two mediocre articles (ie "Slipknot band members" and "Past Slipknot members" or whatever). I was also thinking that we should our own logo for Slipknot project kind of like Wikipedia:WikiProject U2 or WP:HALO you know to go in the talk page templates and stuff like that, what do you think? REZTER ^TALK ø 11:37, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Here's a little something I whipped up as an idea.. tell me what you think and maybe some ideas. REZTER ^TALK ø 12:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm I don't believe we could use the nonagram or S tribal logo because they're copyrighted (well I'd expect them to be), the can't really copyright the image of a goat because it's ambiguous. Anyways what do you think about the logo like the font and everything, any ideas of other shit? REZTER ^TALK ø 17:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I tested it and made the text big to make sure... I've added it to the sidebar on the main page as well. REZTER ^TALK ø 17:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I think you're right... we should go to a promotional period, three GAC at once is enough to handle for now. REZTER ^TALK ø 18:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Good idea... done. REZTER ^TALK ø 18:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Erm regardign the Release History.... it was only released once so we don't need one. Was it released through Sony? I have the DVD and it has the Roadrunner logo on it and doesn't say Sony anywhere on it. REZTER ^TALK ø 18:18, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

That's a great idea for a template. REZTER ^TALK ø 19:43, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

DAMN!! Haha that's got to be the highlight of WP:SLIP and all contributions to Slipknot related articles yet man, we rock. I was thinking after we do Voliminal we should make Slipknot band members the AoF, we could do something similar to this: User:Rezter/Sandbox2 for the former members and delete all of their respective articles. I'm not sure if we should have infoboxs for each person though because they won't have their own articles... anyway after we've cleaned it all up and everything we could submit it for peer review and see what people think could make it a FL. REZTER ^TALK ø 11:18, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow man check out this article: List of Nine Inch Nails live-band members it's a FL, that looks like a great aricle to base ours upon. Again we shouldn't really work on it until it's a AoF. REZTER ^TALK ø 11:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

is sure to be nominated for deletion; so I've actually done so myself here even though I believe it now passes muster due to Maliks multiple press mentions (which had not yet been catalogued when contributors had so very recently weighed in on its "Obongo" iteration. Please be patient with this proposal while those interested weigh in again. (I'm notifying those who commented.) — Justmeherenow (   ) 06:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Dude I've been research hunting and damn man... I have got a LOT of sources for this article. check out my sandbox: User:Rezter/Sandbox, one area I am lacking is the reviews.. yes I have a few but they're not really BIG interviews in that they're not from like Kerrang or Revolver magazine type thing if you get me... anyway add more if you can and we can get started after we get the 3 GANs up. REZTER ^TALK ø 16:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I'd be grateful if you could look at this again in light of the references added. Thanks BoogieRock (talk) 20:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)