Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trapped: Haitian Nights

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The result was redirect‎ to Jean-Claude La Marre. ✗plicit 11:05, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trapped: Haitian Nights

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I PROD'd this article but it was de-PROD'd with a note to bring it to AFD so that's what I'm doing. When I did a search for sources, I just found IMDb and streaming services, along with the Wikipedia article. It looks like a direct-to-video production so I'm doubtful that there are any reviews or articles on reception of the film. There is not even a plot summary here. But I'm sure if reviews are out there, someone will bring them to this discussion. It just looks like a B-level (or Z-level) movie. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage in a recent edition of The Black Guy Dies First: Black Horror Cinema from Fodder to Oscar p. 160-161; a redirect to the director should be considered anyway.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:26, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Haiti-related deletion discussions. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:36, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This article has significantly changed since its AfD nomination. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a few things for verification and a link to the book. I'd rather keep this, although coverage is sparse, one source is very significant; and notable cast and director contribute to the notability of the film, which was not, apparently, a straight-to-video release. It's probably what can be called a B or a Z movie but I don't think that pages about such films are necessarily a bad idea. A redirect to its director is absolutely warranted in my view so that I am strongly opposed to the deletion of the page. Thanks.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:44, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No sources, no claim to notability Kingsmasher678 (talk) 14:24, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No sources????? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:44, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the director, Jean-Claude La Marre. The TV Guide source is a database listing that doesn't go in depth, Historical dictionary of African American cinema only has passing mentions in entries for the crew, the Parle article makes a passing mention when talking about Kenya Moore opening a hair salon, and Culture Crypt appears to be a self-published review. I don't think we're close to meeting WP:GNG here. hinnk (talk) 23:50, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Maybe, but there's another review (see EL; may be considered a SPS expert) and above all, significant coverage in The Black Guy Dies First (covering production, plot, themes and containing a brief critical assessment). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 00:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I really don't think Film Critics United would meet WP:RS, this feels like a red flag. I can't view the full section from The Black Guy Dies First on Google Books, but assuming it's reasonably substantial, that'd make a single source counting toward WP:GNG. hinnk (talk) 10:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to the director. There's really not a lot out there. I'd view Culture Crypt as a reliable enough source, but it's not really about the movie. The rest just doesn't seem to be enough to justify it having its own article - I did find an article talking about one of the producers, but it isn't heavy enough to really justify keeping on that basis alone. If we had a RS review for the film itself then that could do it, but there's just not enough. As it is, I think this could be summed up in a paragraph or few lines in the director's article: mainly that it was heavily funded by a politician, that it got some criticism for its depiction of voodoo, and that it starred Vivica A. Fox. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 20:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
....and that it was remade with a heavy focus on the character played by Kenya Moore and that it implied using original scenes with various changes regarding credits and plot and that commentators found both films bad...all of which would be better in a standalone article.... -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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