Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2024 December 16

File:Jordan Wharf, Guimaras mango monument (Jordan, Guimaras; 01-25-2023).jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Patrickroque01 (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Copyrighted sculpture, no Creative Commons licensing permission from the designer or his heirs. Not an architecture so not eligible for {{FoP-USonly}}. Not eligible for Wikimedia Commons because there is no Freedom of Panorama in the Philippines. Not eligible for fair use tagging as there is no article about this unfamous monument itself. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 00:02, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:3 Ace Tolkien.jpeg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Emloo (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Fails WP:NFCC#8 as the inclusion of a non free image of book covers does not significantly enhance the biographical article Donald A. Wollheim. Also, so many free images in the article already that non-free ones are not needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:04, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Tolkien's design for The Two Towers cover.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Chiswick Chap (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

There are two non free image book covers that are reasonably similar, and so violate WP:NFCC#3- minimal number of non-free images, as well as WP:NFCC#8- this secondary image does not significantly enhance the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:06, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I have to disagree with the rationale here. Tolkien's own artwork showing the two towers of The Two Towers as Orthanc and Minas Morgul definitely significantly enhances the article (and the WP:Non-free use rationale at File:Tolkien's design for The Two Towers cover.jpg spells this out rather clearly: The image shows the two towers as Minas Morgul and Orthanc, agreeing with Tolkien's note at the end of The Fellowship of the Ring, but conflicting with other statements that he made. The illustration shows his design and his intention in 1954, and illuminates the discussion in the article.), and inherently cannot be replaced by any alternative. The difference between the two book covers is substantial. TompaDompa (talk) 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: Agree with TompaDompa. The image is remarkably central to the article, not least because it directly expresses Tolkien's intention for the book via his design for its cover. This is extensively discussed and fully cited in the article, and I explained the rationale clearly and in full in the file's Non-free use rationale. It should certainly be kept as its loss would seriously damage the article, indeed a sizeable part of it would make no sense without it. As for "similarity" between the two covers, they share precisely nothing graphical, only the wording. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:28, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]