Talk:Pakol

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I have made a few changes to this page. First of all the hat is rarely worn in India, and even if it is it is a result of recent cultural exchanges during the past thirty years.

The hat originated in Gilgit and Chitral and not Nuristan, formerly Kafiristan. Before their conversion to Islam in 1895 the then Kafirs of the Hindukush never wore the kapol or any other form of headgear. Please refer to George Robertson's book Kafirs Of The Hindu Kush.

I've removed the following VDM Publishing reference: Lambert M. Surhone, Miriam T. Timpledon, Susan F. Marseken, Pakul, VDM Verlag Dr. Mller [sic] AG & Co. Kg, 2010, on Google books, ISBN 978-6130456955. --Playmobilonhishorse (talk) 04:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Chartinael (talk) 08:06, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to specify that this hat is also worn in north India, in Jammu Kashmir and Himachal Pradesh. In Jammu and Kashmir, it is worn everywhere amongst muslim communities. Jazzbass89 (talk) 03:46, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done, provide sources and format the request correctly please. gwickwire | Leave a message 01:51, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The formerly non-Islamic people of the region that was known as Kafiristan, Today Nuristan, never wore the khapol. Several references for this exist on the internet including the primary source of Sir George Robertson entitled "Kafirs of the Hndu Kush". The kaifrs did wear turbans on ceremonial occasions but usually went about bare headed. Robertson mentions that a few in the Bashgal Valley, tributary to Chitral, wore it as a result of interaction with Chitralis. This hat most certainly did not originate in Nuristan and if anything the Nuristanis acquired it from the Khow people of Chitral. Thus please delete all comments saying that it is a Nuristani invention as that is a complete and utter falsehood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.47.220.16 (talk) 07:32, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To be quiet fair, the nuristani's and chitralis are both dardic and are believed to be related to each other so its a shared hat. Also, Nuristanis never wore turbans, their neighbours the Pashtuns did though for ceremonial tribal practises. Akmal94 (talk) 02:13, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nuristani AKA Kafiri (meaning People of Cyrus/Kūruš AKA کورش ) Are are Independent Unique Aryan people , closer to Iranian than Hindic tribes (Encluding Dardic) , the word kafiri is the indigenous Ethnic Ethnonyme before islamisation/Arabization and has nothing to do with ismlamic kafir ( Apophenia).

kapol was likely Macadonian — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.39.198.37 (talk) 22:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Stvs222:, Pakol is not an iranic cap, but a dardic cap rather from Chitral. And it is worn everywhere in Dardistan (extends from Kashmir to Nuristan in northern Indus valley) traditionally except Kashmir, which is also associated with other regions of India for its culture.

The hat is only worn rarely by some Pashtun and Tajiks, so why are you associating it with the Iranic peoples? That it is worn by them primarily! –Zhamidz (talk) 14:54, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I recognise that it is a Dardic cap however it is worn throughout Afghanistan and Northern Pakistan by Pashtuns and Tajiks. It is not 'rarely worn', on the contrary is very widespread among these peoples so therefor to provide the most accurate information in regards to the Pakol cap, it only makes sense to include who wears it.

A subject that i will and must add are the different types and styles of Pakols that exist, for example in though the original Pakol was originally worn by Chitralis, diffrent ethnics have heir own unique styles. For Chitralis and Gb they usually wear a feathers. In Swat, they usually were a Pakol with twisted rims called the twisted Pakol,. In Waziristan, Pakistan and Khost Afghanistan, Pashtuns have their own unique style of a Pakol also referred to as "Waziristan Pakol" - It more elongated, and wider as well as larger than the typical Pakol shape almost exclusive to them

These different styles and types should be mention and ill also import wiki Common picture's of them. Thanks :) Kasim30345 (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To all users, Axedd and VirtualVagabond, I'm adding a detailed, unbiased, explanation for the earliest origins of the Pakol. I will add all the possibilities and theories. I will add your theories and my theories and so on. I have also included citations to back them up. No one knows how the Pakol actually originated. But we have to include all the possibilities. Please do not remove edits with reliable citations and evidence. Don't be disruptive to the improvement of the article, or you will be reported. Leopardus62 (talk) 03:30, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]