Talk:The Missing (British TV series)

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I have removed the U.S. dates and viewerships from the episode list because it is a precedent to list only original air dates and ratings, including series that are co-productions. Otherwise, the episode lists of series with many countries would be unsustainable. Please do not re-add the U.S. figures. -- Wikipedical (talk) 21:12, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikipedical: See this article, or this one, or maybe this one, and even this one. I can provide many others for your perusal if you'd like. I don't see this "precedent" anywhere else other than this article. Please don't use your personal judgement as a precedent when it isn't one. Thank you. Rswallis10 (talk) 03:21, 22 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We have had several versions trying to explain the ending both of episode 5 and of police officer Jorn Lenhard. None of these versions are entirely satisfactory. Any views? Here is what we have had so far:

• German police officer Lenhard identifies the third girl on the roller coaster as Lena Garber who also went missing. He visits the army press officer, Gettrick at his home. When a child appears and shows him her drawing of "Mummy and me in the cellar", Gettrick overpowers Lenhard and kills him

• [Jorn] visits the army press officer, Gettrick at his home. By sheer coincidence and miraculous timing, a young child happened to be awake, and walking downstairs, and to have drawn a picture of herself with her mother “in the basement”, which she happily explained to Lenhart, clicking the story in to place. Unfortunately Gettrick stopped it going any further by doing a bit of DIY on Lenhart’s brain, killing Jorn.

• Meanwhile the German police officer Jorn Lenhard identifies the third girl on the roller coaster - it is Lena Garber who had gone missing some years ago. Lenhard's research then reveals that army press officer Adam Gettrick knew this girl and pays him a visit. In an animated exchange, Gettrick tries to impress a point on the German policeman which could conclude the whole investigation but which had until now never entered Lenhard's head. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.123.43 (talk) 18:59, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A young child appears unexpectedly from upstairs and shows Lenhart a drawing, saying it is of herself and her mother in the cellar. Gettrick overpowers Lenhart and kills him with a drill.
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  16:36, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Boring. 86.154.102.80 (talk) 10:44, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Precise, economical and clear. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That is your view, but Lenhart was bored out of his mind. 86.154.102.80 (talk) 23:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"LICL" (locked in cellar laughing) Martinevans123 (talk) 08:18, 2 December 2016 (UTC) [reply]

Is it correct to say that 'Sergeant Stone gives birth as a surrogate mother for her sister'? Surrogacy normally means either that an embryo is implanted in the 'host' mother, or that one woman deliberately conceives a child with the intention of giving it to another woman (which in this case would be her sister). But the implication in some of the dialogue seems to be that Sgt. Stone has accidentally got pregnant, with Sam Webster as the father. It is then disguised as a surrogacy arrangement for her sister. But the dialogue between Stone and her sister implies that it is a planned surrogacy. I toyed with the idea that there are actually two pregnancies, but I don't think this fits the time lines. Can anyone untangle this?86.165.228.22 (talk) 14:31, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I, too, as of last night's episode thought she is pregnant twice. Suggest we wait and see, just as we have had to throughout this series with so many aspects of this compelling drama.
I have removed "Sergeant Stone gives birth as a surrogate mother for her sister." Does not seem too relevant at the moment but we may have to return to this subject later.
— Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  16:16, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I watched Ep 6 again, paying more attention to the timeline. I now think there *are* two pregnancies. When Alice/Sophie returns, Sgt. Stone is already visibly pregnant. This is the pregnancy which leads to a danger of miscarriage but ultimately successful delivery. The baby goes to her sister, and it is described as a surrogacy arrangement. The second pregnancy is in the 'present day', and is accidental, Sam Webster being the father. Sgt. Stone tells Mrs Webster that she will not keep it. So there is enough time to allow for two pregnancies. Of course, we have to assume that Sgt. Stone and Sam Webster are very careless. 86.165.228.22 (talk) 23:56, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. As of now it is too early to include this in the short summaries. It could have no significant bearing on the main story. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  08:43, 18 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In the last scene, Baptiste counts down to three (trois), heralding the third series. Where is the best place to mention this? I suggest in 2018/19 when the third series airs and the Wikipedia page is accordingly extended. 86.154.102.80 (talk) 10:42, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How very inventive. He counts down from ten (dix), so maybe we'll get 10 series? But I agree. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:12, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Williams and Jack Williams on Breakfast this morning indicated that they could not envisage writing without Tchéky Karyo as Julien Baptiste in the future, but they have nothing started yet. — Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh | Buzzard |  19:17, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A third series has not been lit - While I agree with the speculation that the final words of the series being 'three' are a way to hint towards it, even if it is a deliberate announcements, until there's an announcement this is speculation. After all, shows have been cancelled on more obvious cliffhangers before. --Imagine Wizard (talk · contribs · count) Iay amay Magineiay Izardway. 18:45, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]