Talk:USS Gabrielle Giffords

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The Gabrielle Giffords is not, in fact, the 13th US ship since the 1850s named after a living person, as claimed in the article. Rather, it is the 13th US ship named after a living person since the 1969 policy against naming ships after living people. The preceding ships are (1) USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70), (2) USS Hyman G. Rickover (SSN-709), (3) USS Arleigh Burke (DDG-51), (4) USS John C. Stennis (CVN-74), (5) USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76), (6) USNS Bob Hope (T-AKR-300), (7) USS Jimmy Carter (SSN-23), (8) USS George H.W. Bush (CVN-77), (9) USS Nitze (DDG-94), (10) USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78), (11) USS Wayne E. Meyer (DDG-108), and (12) USS John Warner (SSN-785). The last ship named after a living person before there was policy against it was the USS Richmond K. Turner (CG-20).

Now the incorrect claim is correctly sourced, so I'm not sure how best to handle this. For the moment I'm leaving this description here. But it's not surprising that the author of the article confused which 13th living person this ship was named after. I think the best way is to keep the 13 and change it to reference the usual policy; changing the number is complicated by the USRC Harriet Lane which makes the USS Gabrielle Giffords either 16 or 17 defending on whether you exclude or include Harriet Lane.

CRGreathouse (t | c) 15:05, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just a point of fact, Turner died on 12 Feb. 1961, just a month after the cruiser that bore his name was laid down on 9 January, and probably before the name was settled on. As far as I can tell, the claim is off only by 1, as the article seems to have forgotten about USS Holland (SS-1), named for John Philip Holland. Parsecboy (talk) 17:27, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Probably best to be BOLD and just remove it entirely, so long as no one disputes that it is incorrect. See WP:AD. Alcherin (talk) 22:03, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Yes, it was correct to bring this to MilHist attention. I've added the proper project tag to this. The article comes within the scope of Operation Majestic Titan. auntieruth (talk) 16:04, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  I guess I disagree. Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Operation Majestic Titan is for battleships and battle cruisers; Gabrielle Giffords is neither of those.

  —Trappist the monk (talk) 16:25, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Hmmmm, you may be right. I will leave this to the project managers to decide. auntieruth (talk) 20:43, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]