Talk:Yang Youlin

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Yang Youlin is currently a Politics and government good article nominee. Nominated by PrivateRyan44 (talk) at 02:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review the article in accordance with the good article criteria and will decide whether or not to list it as a good article. Comments are welcome from any editor who has not nominated or contributed significantly to this article. This review will be closed by the first reviewer. To add comments to this review, click discuss review and edit the page. Short description: Member of the Communist Party of China (1899–1935)

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Due to most of the sources about Yang Youlin being only written in Chinese, it is difficult for me as a citizen of the United States of America to find sources about him. I ask that those who know Chinese please contribute in their efforts to improving this article by providing valuable information and sources to this page. PrivateRyan44 (talk) 04:15, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have added in more sources from Chinese sources. Should have a more thorough explanation on things and more detailed stuff now.

All the best. YangZongChang0101 (talk) 10:41, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see you’ve added quite a lot! Thank you very much!

- Ryan PrivateRyan44 (talk) 22:23, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dear PrivateRyan44,

This summer, or in March, I will be travelling to Hunan to find the sources and the diary which was written about Yang Youlin by my great grandfather, the KMT Officer.

We have a letter written to us by Chen Geng, talking about Yang Youlin etc, sent to Yang Yingpeng.

I will take a photo of every page of that diary, also the unique picture of Yang Kaihui which no one has and also a picture of the bronze statue which was made of Yang Youlin.

I will try to get as many sources and pictures as I can get in Hunan next year.

Thank you,

Yang Zongchang. YangZongChang0101 (talk) 07:15, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, lovely! If it is possible, I would ask if you could create a translated version of the diary in English so that I may publish it on Wikisource. If it is on there, then the work will be much easier to cite, and will be available for all to read. PrivateRyan44 (talk) 07:17, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will do my best. YangZongChang0101 (talk) 07:25, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Yang Youlin/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: PrivateRyan44 (talk · contribs) 02:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Fidodog14 (talk · contribs) 07:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the sources in this article are currently not secondary reliable sources. What is cited here are mostly government WP:PRIMARY sources. There is only one cited source to date -- this Paul Clark article -- that could be considered a best source. Still lots of work needed here. - Amigao (talk) 23:33, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly government sources, which are a reliable source nonetheless. Lots of work needed, by you to further discredit and damage the history of this article, yes? YangZongChang0101 (talk) 01:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Always best to stick with WP:SECONDARY and WP:INDEPENDENT sources. - Amigao (talk) 01:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no justifiable defense for what you are doing, which is blatant spread of americanized and biased knowledge to put China, and the Communist Party of China in a bad light. YangZongChang0101 (talk) 01:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You probably ought to review WP:AGF as well. - Amigao (talk) 01:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will not assume good faith, as there are 3 articles written about you stating your intent to change the history of chinese articles to defame them, as well as the clear editing pattern which shows your interest or focus on editing Chinese related articles on your page.

You are a notorious member on R/Sino after all. YangZongChang0101 (talk) 01:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Found this. https://www.jstor.org/stable/2049370, Surely this is reliable, yes? PrivateRyan44 (talk) 01:46, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For questions about source reliability, the best place to ask is always WP:RSN. WP:RSP also has a useful list for reference. - Amigao (talk) 02:29, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]