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Is here Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 20:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Yup I saw it. Uhh a tough work, but I will make it. Tomica1111 (talk) 22:46, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

LOUD is completely separate from Rated R, there is no continuity between the two things. The assualt on Rihanna was directly related to Rated R but its NOTHING to do with Loud. None of the material spawned/was inspired by the assault. The inclusion of such material does not help readers understand the conception of Loud. If people want to see how the albums relate to each other they can read the page for Rihanna. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 19:19, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

There's expansion for GA and then there's waffle and expansion for no reason. You can easily get something to GA without it being a thousand pages long!!! — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 19:20, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

the discography page unnecessarily adds undue size to the article and repeats information which is already mentioned in the singles section. I applaud your efforts - you've done really well on the GA front so far... but sometimes your edits are are little inefficient. You can easily have a GA album without including a single discog. You're uncessarily creating work for yourself. That's advice from me... (editor of 2-3 years, over ten GAs etc., reviewer of over 20 etc.) Its upto you... but judging by your previous GAs I'd focus on prose personally as that seems to be where you fall down. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 23:18, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

The Key to good and featured articles is details and how succinct something is!! :) — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk]

how did you find my twitter?!?! Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 13:21, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Haha, I had your e-mail, and I searched for mail contacts, who have twitter, and by coincidence you were the only one. :) Tomica1111 (talk) 13:40, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Ohh right lol, i thought i'd switched that off! haa. as long you don't tweet anything wiki-related to me, because my friends don't know i edit on here and they will wonder what on earth you are talking about lol. Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 13:43, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I also found you on facebook, but I didn't add you, I thought you gonna be like mad for it :D ! hoho Tomica1111 (talk) 13:44, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Lol yeah my facebook link is on my twitter profile, but yeah just don't tweet anything wikipedia related to me lol. Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 13:48, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'm not so active on twitter, I only use it to see what's new with Rihanna. Tomica1111 (talk) 13:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

haha okay Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 13:57, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Hey, btw see the review page of "Rehab (Rihanna song)", cause I really think there are some problems with the review about the references. Tomica1111 (talk) 13:59, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I saw you had put some "???" there, I am about to go out but will explain when i get in a few hours. Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 14:00, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 13:22, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

I have removed non-free audio file, categories and interwiki links from your "Umbrella" sandbox. We're not allowed to use them on our sandboxes/userspace :) Good luck with the Rihanna WikiProject. I would join, but I have my hands full with other articles at the moment. Novice7 (talk) 12:24, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Auto-archive done! :) Thank you so much for the invitation! I'll join the Project sometime soon. But, as I said, at the moment I have lotss of articles to complete (see User:Novice7/Sandboxes lol). I do like Rihanna [although I prefer the old Rihanna: Music of the Sun, A Girl Like Me (my fave), Good Girl Gone Bad (second fave) =)] Novice7 (talk) 15:47, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Good :D Many Rihanna articles are in a very bad state (especially the earlier albums/singles). The project should help you organize them better. Novice7 (talk) 15:54, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Is passed :). First Rihanna article to be GA status since the creation of the Wikiproject! Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 15:24, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I think our next task should be a FA article. What Rihanna article you think it's most suitable? Tomica1111 (talk) 15:38, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

It's very difficult. My nomination for S&M to be an FA was rejected, even though I did everything they asked of me. It's very hard to make an article FA worthy. Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 15:42, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I think we will be waiting for someone to Peer Review Loud for quite a while! There are a lot of unanswered reviews on the nominations page at the moment, but it's important we have it done first. Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 00:48, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Russian Roulette is in a right state at the moment, desperately needs pulling up lol. Well, I have Raining Men, Man Down and CKB on GAN at the moment, so hopefully they will pass, then the only article related to Loud left after that will be the Loud Tour, the the topic is done! I want to start on Rude Boy next, I love that song. Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 00:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Take A Bow is a mess as well. This is exactly why a WP:RIHANNA was needed, so that people know about the condition of Rihanna articles. Calvin • ⁹⁹⁹ 01:09, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

How do you like my new signature? >>> Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 01:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation. I just joined the group and I hope I can help you guys :) Decodet (talk) 15:55, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you :). Tomica1111 (talk) 15:58, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation but I don't know if I would join this because Calvin and you are good editors to improve RiRi's articles. I won't be very helpful. Pixelyoshi (discuter) 17:12, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Can I help you for your projects ? Pixelyoshi (discuter) 20:22, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

How do you mean ? In the Rihanna wikiproject, or my sandboxes?! Tomica1111 (talk) 00:02, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

"Russian Roulette" for example ? Pixelyoshi (discuter) 20:32, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, of course, you can help, we are in together with this project ;) ! You can edit it, in my sanbox. Tomica1111 (talk) 20:37, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

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I've never seen the vidéo I found this. Let me know if it's complete. Pixelyoshi (discuter) 21:44, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

This, this ? Pixelyoshi (discuter) 22:19, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) Pixelyoshi (discuter) 12:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Amazing job on the article 1111Tomica! I've done something to the article (usual MoS stuff, a minor c/e) Keep up the good work! Btw, PRs may take a long time, so by the time someone reviews it, you could try and ask for a c/e at the WP:GOCE :) Novice7 (talk) 13:08, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, you can try asking Nikkimaria or Bradley0110 for comments. They're both very good. Novice7 (talk) 14:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Novice7 (talk) 15:13, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Tomica did you have a picture of Rihanna singing CKB on tour? (In a yellow outfit with brown over the knee tan coloured boots?). Could you add it to the Live performance section of CKB please? Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 21:28, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Yup, I will add it. Tomica1111 (talk) 21:30, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks! :) Calvin • NaNaNaC'mon! 21:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Hoho, I love beer, No Problem :) ! Tomica1111 (talk) 21:41, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

haha. Btw, Raining Men became GA today! I think it could possibly be Wikipedia's shortest GA article lol. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 21:42, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, saw that Congratulations btw. haha yea maybe u R right. However it's cute and tidy. I think that we are doing a Rihanna revolution in Wikipedia. I am so excited about "Russian Roulette", for that maybe I have been kinda annoying today hhh :) Tomica1111 (talk) 21:47, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Lol. I hope "Cheers" charts this week so the article can be re-opened. I have sources to expand it with. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 22:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I also want to contribute on "Cheers", it's one of my favorite songs. We can make a major article from it. Especially if it's commercial success, hope it happens. We must make a Rihanna FA! :) Tomica1111 (talk) 22:04, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I created and wrote the article, but there isn't a lot of info about it. None about the composition yet apart from the interpolation, nothing on Musicnotes. Only 3 or 4 reviews, no info about a music video, no live performances apart from it being on the Loud Tour set-list. I don't know if there will be much else to add, which makes me think that it will not be able to pass GAN, it's about 1/3 of the size of Raining Men! Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 22:11, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

No, I mean when the song gains popularity, then definitely there will be more info about it, and we can expand the article. Until than, we edit other stuff ;). Btw I saw it, in your sanbox ! Tomica1111 (talk) 22:16, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah more reviews should come out this week, but the article won't be that big. I'm making changes to my sandbox until it gets re-opened, then I can just paste the new stuff in that I am doing. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 22:23, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Loud received a Peer Review and it was nowhere near as extensive or problematic as I thought it would be, considering the size of the article, so I have made the changes and it is now co-nominated for GAN. So hopefully it will be reviewed soon. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 14:54, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Coooool. =) Happy for that, Hopefully we gets GA review soon. Greetings Tomica1111 (talk) 15:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 00:31, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Sure, I'll try to shorten it up. ^_^ SyFuel^Ignite_Burned 03:42, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the lateness, but currently I don't have permanent Internet connection, so I have to go to a cyber cafe to upload it. I have replaced it with a shorter version. Hope it helps!! ^_^ SyFuel^Ignite_Burned 03:35, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!! ^_^ SyFuel^Ignite_Burned 08:45, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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Hey, I was wondering if you could be a doll and do me a favor. Can you revert to this reversion? Some user keeps reverting my edits with no explanation and has not discussed anything with me at all. ℥^nding·start 19:24, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

There you go :) ! Tomica1111 (talk) 19:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! :) That user seems to becoming a big problem... And what do you mean? ℥^nding·start 19:35, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I've begun the review. ℥^nding·start 22:49, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks ! Tomica1111 (talk) 22:50, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I saw you reverted to Legolas' edit of removing the GAN, and that you restored the previous one. I reverted this again, because you hadn't closed the PR like you said you had in the edit summary. I have now closed the PR and it is now an archive, so you can now re-nominate the article for GAN. You can't have a Peer Review still open whilst it is a GAN. If you don't know how to close a PR, then ask someone, but don't just revert and say it is closed when it wasn't. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 18:01, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Lol. Calm down, I thought I closed it, cause I followed the steps in WP:PR, but obviously something went wrong! Thanks Tomica1111 (talk) 18:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Lol no it was still open on both the talk page and the peer review page. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 18:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

However, I didn't mean to go in edit war or something, It was obviously a mistake. Tomica1111 (talk) 18:07, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit war? When? Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 18:10, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Hah, I thought that you think, that I'm going in edit war, without closing the review ;) ! Tomica1111 (talk) 18:16, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info on Wait Your Turn, that section is huge now! Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:43, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

No problem, always here to help. But really you don't remember when she performed "Wait Your Turn" on the tour?:D Tomica1111 (talk) 00:05, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

No, it was last May. To be honest I can't really remember the specifics of all the tours I have been too, and considering she only performed Wait Your Turn as part of Medley, it was only about 2 minutes out of 2 hours lol. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 00:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Auuu I'm so jealous to you, you have been to Last Girl on Earth, going to meet her on Loud Tour. I hope I will do that one day :/. Say hi from me to her, please :D hah ! Tomica1111 (talk) 00:10, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Lol, for the LGOE tour, me and a friend had standing tickets (because Rihanna only had the floor at the 02 Arena for standing, no seats), and we had these special tickets where we entered the arena 15 minutes before everyone else who had standing and we were standing right at the railing where the B-stage joins the main stage, so literally right at the front, about 1 metre away from RiRi! And yeah this year I am going twice, once with a friend and then Meet and Greet with my mum a month later. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 00:14, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

So Cool. I have family in London, so I hope if I finish my exams until December 18-19, possibly to go and watch her on December 20-21 or 22. I will be the most happiest in the world ;) !Tomica1111 (talk) 00:17, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Lol do you have tickets then? Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 00:18, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Currently NO! :S ... Lol man, she performs ten shows in London, I hope she didn't sale the whole show, so I can grab one... Lol :P ! Tomica1111 (talk) 00:21, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

You will find it very difficult to find any decent tickets located on the front half of the 02 now, because they have all sold, and the only ones left are at the back. But it depends on how much you want to pay I guess, the more expensive the ticket is, the more likely you are that you will get a (better seated) ticket. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 00:26, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

You didn't change a thing apart from 1 word! Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 01:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

AND NOW?! Tomica1111 (talk) 09:38, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

RadioScope is fine to use. I commented at the GA review. —Andrew_stalk 22:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

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I've passed the article! :) ℥^nding·start 01:10, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

	The Original Barnstar
	For your work on getting "Russian Roulette" to GA status! :) ℥nding·start 13:33, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

THANKS!!! =) Tomica1111 (talk) 13:37, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Please do not change the way the sources are. Most of them are sources supporting positions of both albums and singles; whereas, these changes make the sources for singles appear as SWE ALBUM, AUS ALBUM etc. Also, edits should include edit summaries, and almost none of these edits do have summaries; therefore, I had to go over all of them one by one to see what they represented. A lot has already been done to improve that discography. If you feel that it needs further improvement, please discuss or do leave brief explanation in your edit summaries. Also, please do not remove the sources of Canadian positions or others that cannot be found in the sources provided. Regards.--Harout72 (talk) 21:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Please ignore my explanation. If yo feel that references require improvement, please make your desired edits without changing them into ALBUMS, because they are not. As far as publishers go for sources, I don't see any problems with those. In any case, discussing beforehand will do a lot of good to you and to me and everyone involved. Regards.--Harout72 (talk) 22:25, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Can you see the sources placed in the boxes of "I'm into you" and others, those positions do not exist in the sources provided, and you have removed them all. You have made 100 separate edits when everything could have been done with only few without messing up the list and claim that they are improvements. Again, citations for singles cannot read SWE ALBUMS and the same for other markets.--Harout72 (talk) 22:42, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Over the past few months, I have been working on getting her discography to FL and you nominate it after working on it for a day? Explain this to me. ℥^nding·start 23:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think it's ready quite yet for FL. The lead primarily being the problem; it is in need of a major copyedit. The people at FL are going to cut it up and eat it. Sure, I guess that could work. I still think it needs more work though. Hopefully no one from FL looks at it yet. ℥^nding·start 00:03, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Don't bother, I'm doing it now. ℥^nding·start 00:09, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

It's being a bitch, wanna have a kick at it? I deleted some of the information not really needed, and added some. ℥^nding·start 00:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Don't feel bad, it happens all of the time. The lead still needs some editing though, and it's good because I couldn't properly reference something for my life. ℥^nding·start 00:39, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Goodnight! And I hope so too! LOL! ℥^nding·start 00:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

You really need to give the lead a try. :L I failed, miserably. ℥^nding·start 16:16, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

I swear to you, I also had Xtina and Shaki on my to-do FL list. :L We'll just have to do those together too. >:) ℥^nding·start 16:27, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

I've fixed most of the article body section, except for the ref parts, because, you know. xD I did do the grouping, but I'm sure I did it wrong. ℥^nding·start 17:00, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, I will have a look at the list for you over the weekend. Bradley0110 (talk) 19:07, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

You wanna fix up the refs that need fixing? ℥^nding·start 23:35, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

I still think the lead needs some work. It looks better, but IDK. It's just missing something. Also, I had begun work on Jennifer Lopez videography. I was thinking of moving it back into the main discography, as its not much on its own, but I'm having problems finding sources for some of the directors. If you could help out with that page too, it'd be great. ℥^nding·start 00:15, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

LOL. It looks like it meets the FL criteria much more than it did before. Let's just hope more people chime in. Last name I nominated something for FL, it failed because pretty much nobody came in to either support or oppose it. ℥^nding·start 00:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Just letting you know I have a username change, so you don't think I'm a different person. xD status ϟ ^talk 21:12, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

I hated it since I registered my account a year ago. xD So when I finally thought of a new one, I jumped on it. Sure, I'll try my best. status ϟ ^talk 22:18, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 19:38, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you want to get back into properly editing Rated R now? I have a lot more time to do it now and have no other outstanding things to do. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 22:09, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 22:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh sorry. I forgot. I'll take a look for some info. status ϟ ^talk 20:36, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, would you please participate in this discussion? Thanks. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 15:03, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello my friend. I am sorry to tell you that i do not think i am experienced enough to comment at an FAC. Why don't you ask my respected friends? Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:46, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

If the article is still at FAC on September 1, 2011, please contact me. I will surely leave some comments. This week, i will be very busy. Actually, my cousin has just given birth to my first nephew and in my country, such things are celebrated, i mean, it means a lot to me. Please do not be angry. I will do my best next Thursday. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:53, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comprehension. Do not forget to contact me on the date i mentioned. Regards. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:04, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

You really shouldn't ask people to participate in the FL. Anyways, I'm having some issues with "I'm Real". I never noticed before, but the Murder Remix is completely different from the original, so I've changed it back to how it was before, being the first single from her remix album. Now, we need to figure out which positions were for the original, and which for the remix. — Status {^talk_contribs  21:20, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

On Billboard, they are separate though. So, I'm not sure. Original peaked at #2, remix at #1. — Status {^talk_contribs  23:31, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

It's not the same though. The remix is considered the lead single from J to tha L-O! — Status {^talk_contribs  01:11, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I know this isn't a reliable source, but look at this. That's why it was replaced! They removed the sample from "Fading". Should find a reliable source and put it in the article. — Status {^talk_contribs  04:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Don't you think we should finish JLO off first? :P I'm doing good, how about you? — Status {^talk_contribs  03:01, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

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I will not add the page on my watchlist; its getting longer. Just ping me when I need to respond. Actually I was still at the background section. But you know, there's so much in Wikipedia I have to hop on another subject. But anyways I'll get back to it if you still need my comments. Thanks. --Efe (talk) 12:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Tomica. I'll have a look at the article, and possibly add more comments tomorrow. Its almost past 12 AM here. Ciao! --Efe (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I have responded to one of your concerns. --Efe (talk) 13:14, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Left comment there. Till the next weekend. --Efe (talk) 13:51, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Tommy. I noticed you are having a scuffle with Calvin over GAs and whatnot. I want to help out, so I'm going to explain a few things. You have to understand that most editors prefer to work on their own (I have done almost everything on my own. I only collaborate with Novice7, only because we are really close and have a great relationship). But most do everything on their own, and don't like to split GAs. Trust me, I've done it with others and the results have not been pretty. So when an editor doesn't want to collaborate, you have to respect that and kind of give them space, or else you will make the working environment uncomfortable and "forced". You may not realize, but there is a big different in "fixing an article" and "being involved in the GA process". Fir example, Jivesh always asks me for assistance, writing synopsis sections etc. But just because I wrote a section or helped out, does not mean I earned co-nom rights. It means you "edited Wikipedia" and helped a friend. A co-nom is when two editors agree from the beginning and do pretty much half each (unless they have a specific agreement). If you see an editor working on an article, don't automatically include yourself in the "GA process"; yes Wikipedia is free for you to edit any page, but if I know Legolas is doing the new Gaga song, I'm not going to just put my nose in his sandbox. I think you need to take more pride in your own work, and try on being more independent. Its honestly the only way you'll gain experience and grow. There are many Rihanna articles in the sea for you to improve. Maybe if you and Calvin could predetermine pages you want to do? Well Tommy, good luck and I hope you can get something out of this chat. Cheers ;)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 20:26, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I agree with Nathan actually Tom. I don't really think what you have done qualifies you to be in the position to co-nominate. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:23, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

I responded on his talk page. You can see what I think. And If this co-nomination bothers you ... we don't have to do it. I am sick of it ! Tomica1111 (talk) 23:25, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Glad you understand Tommy. I really want this to be a peaceful place to edit. Its actually easy to find sources. The main tool I use is the google news archive. The song actually has a lot of coverage. Look here :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 23:28, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

So what sources do you need? Music video and live performances? List me the performances you need sources for.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 23:32, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No, I'll write here. I saw what you wrote about Disturbia. Have a look at the Raining Men article and how short it is. It's not about how many sections an article has or long it is, it's about how you use the the information and write the sections, so with Disturbia, as long as you include all of the information that you write, then you are likely to achieve GA. As long as the references are consistent and correct, have very good prose and comply with MoS, you will be fine. I think it's important for you to do things by yourself, otherwise you will not improve and grow as an editor. Only you can learn by your own work and mistakes, and use them to better your editing. Concentrate on Disturbia and Take A Bow by yourself, you will feel really good when they pass, knowing that you, and only you, were responsible for making them GA. Take my advice, as it is advice I had to learn for myself on here. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:33, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Well, for the VMAs there are a lot of sources. VMAs

• who gave an energetic, goth-inspired performance of her hit Disturbia, using glow sticks and leather props
• wearing a skintight outfit of feathers and leather as she sang about insanity in the show’s first big production number, “Disturbia
• ceding the stage to a futuristic-looking Rihanna, who launched into her hit "Disturbia" with a goth-themed entourage touting glow sticks and leather
• Rihanna kicked off the night with a troop of dancers, who borrowed moves and outfits from Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' video, to perform 'Disturbia'. She also duetted with T.I. later in the evening
• with dancers paying homage to "Thriller,"

Pepsi Bowl

• VH1
• Daily Mail
• Daily Mail

LGOE Tour

• Song highlights included Disturbia, featuring her dancers dressed as threatening monsters on stilts
• Later, a slower, ballad-like remix of "Disturbia" found Rihanna suddenly surrounded by three huge 15-foot, four-legged insect monsters as she crawled on the floor to escape while singing the dark vocal
• Rihanna's goth side came out - and by 'goth side' I mean she sang alongside dancers dressed as freaky, giant spiders - during the darker dancefloor anthem, Disturbia
• Her band, led by Extreme guitarist Nuno Bettencourt, were defiantly loud and proud during rocked up versions of Disturbia and Don’t Stop The Music

Loud Tour

• Eventually, the sexy singer stripped down to a brightly colored sequined bikini for Disturbia, Shut Up And Drive, and her latest single, Man Down, playing with such bells and whistles as a levitating, rotating platform, a conveyer belt and graffiti-laden car shell
• Quickly transitioning in "Disturbia," Rihanna stripped off the coat and flaunted her assets in a jeweled bikini, alternating between strutting across each side of the stage and gliding along a moving conveyor belt
• Rihanna dropped her blue coat to reveal a jewel- encrusted bikini for Disturbia. It was the first of numerous costume changes that showed off her fashion sense and plenty of skin

That should be enough. I think you can write a nice amount of information with just this. Good luck!--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 00:05, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Co-nom rights? What is that? Its foreign to Wikipedia. Its not about credits. --Efe (talk) 13:53, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that you just put Disturbia up for GAN, but just by reading the Lead and looking at the references, you still have work to do, which means that there is more than likely issues throughout the rest of the article, meaning it is not ready for GAN. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 18:46, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Lol - check this out :) here--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 21:36, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I actually know it. LOL She is credited like Robyn Fenty. Mariah Carey is one of her favorite artists definitely. What do you think about the performance? :) Tomica1111 (talk) 21:40, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Lol. Its pretty tragic :P--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 21:41, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Well she had only 15-16 years and tried to sing Carey. We should gave a bow about that to her. For example Britney has nearly 15 years career and still lip-sync. I don't hate on her, I listen to her and like it, however I don't agree with her singing/performing. Tomica1111 (talk) 21:45, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Lol. Well, I doubt RiRi would do much better with that song nowadays either. But yes, I unfortunately am very sad at what Britney is doing with her career. She actually can sing, not like Carey, but she can. She had a lead vocalist spot of the MMC for God's sake. Now she sings partially live on her tour, but still, it should be live 100%. Also, her lazy dancing and performances upset me :(--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 21:47, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Yeah I also believe she can sing, however she lip-synces all the time. And yeah she is kind of lazy. Here according to me, Britney looks like Desperate Housewife. "S&M" is really hard song with autotunes and other stuff and I think Rihanna sings it decently. However, Britney... :/ Tomica1111 (talk) 21:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

I thought it was kind of retarded that Rihanna sung live and Britney didn't :( And her last second performance of "TTWE"? She walked down the stage lipping :(--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 22:08, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

That was also on the Billboard Music Awards 2011, I think, If I'm right. My favorite Britney song is "Everytime" I want to her singing it live. However, I don't know If I would wait for that. Haha :) However, I still like her more than Gaga because of her style :) ! Tomica1111 (talk) 22:12, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh for sure. Britney will always be my favorite after MC :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 22:15, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Me = #1 Rihanna, #2 Beyonce, #3Shakira/Britney :) ! Tomica1111 (talk) 22:18, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Have you guys listened to this? Novice7 (talk) 13:01, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear Jesus, What happened with this girl?! She was singing incredibly, I don't know why she lip-syncs now all the time. What I can guess is that she lost a lot of her voice, cause she was not working on it. Tomica1111 (talk) 13:06, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Another one. Maybe lack of training, improper technique and of course aging. Our voices change when we enter our teenage. Also, Jive Records wanted her to sound "sexy" and asked her to sing like a robot lol. If you listen to "Sometimes", you can see that she can sing pretty good. Novice7 (talk) 13:09, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Yeah she has a lot of songs that lack of the autotune, "Born to Make You Happy" and as I mentioned also "Everytime" her recorded vocals sound great! However, we can not hear her real live vocals, cause she always lip-syncs. :/ And that's too bad. 1111tomica (talk) 13:16, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Might as well just remove both of them. I would review it, but since school is coming back in a few days, I don't wanna start anything new now. — Status {^talk_contribs  21:07, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Здраво, здраво Томица. Како си? Гледам дека добро ти оди со Ријана и нејзините статии кои го имаат добиено статусот добра статија. Поздрав. My love is love (talk) 21:50, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

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Great! It is one of my favourites too. :) - Sauloviegas (talk) 17:13, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Looks as if Lego and Novice think that some information about the sound of each album should be noted. How about it? — Status {^talk_contribs  22:37, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I think I'm going to withdraw the GA nomination of "Overprotected"... I was reading the article earlier and noted it needs to be improved a lot more. And I don't have time right now to continue with this GAR. - Sauloviegas (talk) 18:24, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Ok, it's your choice. When you RE-nominate it just call me. I will review it again. ;) ! Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 18:25, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Tomica, if Sauloviegas is 100% certain he wants to not continue with GAN, then you have to fail the article. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 18:34, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

It is my decision, Tomica. Sorry to let you down. :( But I have to work more on it and other articles too. I will call you again when I re-nominte it, pal. :) - Sauloviegas (talk) 12:11, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Tomica, not all countries can view those VEVO videos. I've done that before and was told to remove. So either remove them or I'll revert them. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon!

16:56, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I know that all the countries can not view them, however I didn't know they were restricted on wiki. I will remove them — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 16:59, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I guess because not everyone can view them, then they can't be used. Plus, RihannaVEVO technically isn't her account. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 17:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

But where should I put now Book:Loud (Rihanna album) ... maybe at release history as in the "Raining Men" case? — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:03, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

I guess. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 17:06, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

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Thank You about the beautiful words :). Yeah, I'm interested actually in everything that regards MACEDONIA :) !— Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 00:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer!

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hello, I think Man Down is reggae-dangdut song, my friends here in Indonesian music, Man Down is like dangdut song, do you never hear dangdut song? hemm , read it "Modern dangdut incorporates influences from Middle Eastern pop music, Western rock, house music, hip-hop music, contemporary R&B, and reggae.". and the original reggae I think songs "Crazy Little Thing Called Love", "Dem Haters" in AGLM (Rihanna album), thanks --Bagus Priyambada (talk) 13:46, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, I must share some happiness with you. Today my country, the Republic of Macedonia makes history in European basketball. It won over Lithuania in the eight-final and now it's in the quarterfinal playing with Spain in Friday. Uff :D Macedonian basketball players YOU ROCK ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 22:23, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

I am fine. Thank you. And you??? Sure. I am starting. Jivesh • Talk2Me 19:02, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Tommy, feel free to ask me whatever you want. To tell you frankly, i appreciate all the work you do. I mean, just like me, you are not a native speaker of English. Yet, you try hard and better all these articles. I will continue the review tomorrow as it is very late here, almost midnight. And i will review all sections. By the way, i forgot. Are you a boy or a girl? I guess a boy, right? Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:58, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Lol. Yes. As soon as you posted that message, "Rehab" by Amy Winehouse began playing on the radio. LOL. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:20, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Same here. I am getting on yours now. (PR) I have been here. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:35, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Ahh "Cheers", my song. ;) Ok I'm waiting for your comments ;) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:36, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Getting on it now. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:14, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

I will try to finish it today. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 15:28, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Sure. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:35, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for being so understanding. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 17:53, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Getting on it now. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 18:46, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

I saw your change on Rihanna's album 'Loud' about her sixth studio album hasn't been confirmed, if she said on her official Twitter account, she's penning ideas doesn't tat count as something as it's come from her mouth not from hearsay?MariaJaydHicky (talk) 19:35, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

WP:TWITTER is not a reliable source. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 17:55, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

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I will surely do the live performance section. And you are most welcome. By the way, thanks for that barn-star. I was not expecting one. My heartfelt thanks to you. In fact, all the barn-stars i have got till today are related to Beyonce. Thanks again. You are sincerely very kind Tommy. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 04:45, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you foir those kind words. I will do the live performances section today in 2 hours. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 15:36, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

You are not boring and i am sincere. You have no idea about how i was when i was new here. I used to ask very very very silly questions. Lol but that is how we learn. I will do it. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 15:43, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to use any of them. You are most welcome. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 15:44, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

I used emoticons for the first time in my life today. I am serious. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 15:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Tommy i fear that there is no relevant part on this. Is it this line that caught your attention:

As part of the promotion, Timbaland produced a remix of Rihanna's "Rehab" that fans can download exclusively to the new device. ???

17:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Ooppss. Sorry, i did not pay attention to that. I have already started but have not yet saved anything. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 17:35, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

The information about the remix on the MTV News page went in the live performance only. It could not fit inside in the background section by any angle. Now if you have more information about the remix, then we can do something. And concerning that Grammy thing, do you know that it definitely 1000000000000 % deserves to be there. That type of information is MORE THAN NEEDED AND EXTREMELY... (just cannot find the appropriate word). Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 10:18, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I now definitely agree. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 10:38, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 10:43, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I am very very very sorry. I just noticed you left me a message. I have been replying to another one of my friends all this time long. Sorry. About the GA, hmmmmm that is very nice of you. Really. I will let you know. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 19:33, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Tommy, i want to tell you something. Please do not be angry. If "Rehab" fails at FAC, do not nominate it again. This has a better shot at FAC and it is the kind of article which usually pass theirs, especially because of this, this and this. I only wish your good Tommy. Trust me. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 11:53, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Wait. And you know, after reading that Billboard article again and again, i began pondering: "Is it a valuable addition?" Which part according to you will be useful? Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:00, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

It does look like an interesting addition but where will it fit? And where is that Grammy Awards information you were talking about? Already added? Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:09, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I will do that today at night. Concerning the references, where??? Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

OMG. What have you done??? Avoid using this language in lead. It was Efe. Try to talk to him. If he sees that, he might be hurt. He is really very nice. Please Tommy. Do it quickly. I do not want you to get blocked. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:18, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Ooppss. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:25, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

By the way, what happened to the references? Where? Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:30, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Tommy may i know why you are nervous? Personal problems? Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:47, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

That list is super long. Anyway we are renovating at home and my house it's like a bomb was thrown to it. made me laugh a lot. It was all i needed after this exhausting day. About the girl, i understand you because i have already been through this. As a friend, i would advice you something. Instead of torturing yourself, go and talk to her. At least you will know if she is interested in having a relationship with you. If no, just move on. There are too many pretty women in this world. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 13:02, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Oh no. Whenever you need an attentive ear, i will always be here. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 13:11, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Sure. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 04:40, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey, have you got the album booklet for Rated R by any chance? I need to know the catalogue number for the album and the page number which Rude Boy is on. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 23:42, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey Tommy. Honestly, its up to you. I'm not involved with her stuff, so I can't really judge. I can upload it, just tell me around the second on the official YouTube video you want. Just also be able to write a decent screen-shot description (not like "they are seen standing" lol).--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 02:17, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Wow. You get lots of peer reviews. Left comment there. --Efe (talk) 12:30, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi Tomica. If you won't mind, I will visit the PR page on Saturday. --Efe (talk) 14:48, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Illustration of an octave, c4 to c5. If its c4 to c#5, its one octave and one semitone. But then again, that's an original research therefore you must find secondary source to support that. --Efe (talk) 04:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom, I left comments there. Got some nice stuff / suggestions for you. --Efe (talk) 09:24, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Already replied there. --Efe (talk) 12:15, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

[1] I did Tom. But please beware of your language, even if they can only be seen in edit summaries. Also, this one is not going anywhere near FA if you guys stick to that formula used by many music (GA) writers. --Efe (talk) 12:22, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict on different pages) It's fine. But be nice to eveybody. I think he just need some mentoring. --Efe (talk) 12:26, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Its up to you if you'd like to add it back. IMO, there's no point if it is just plainly added to the lead. So what if she performed it? Significant? --Efe (talk) 12:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Look. I got some funny stuff. It made me lol in the inside. --Efe (talk) 12:41, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Haha =)! Jivesh is so cool, he freaked me off with the comment. Btw you made "Irreplaceable" a FA. And I can see that there is a live performances summary in the lead. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 12:48, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I added it there when i worked on it again. I prefer not to tell you the hell into which the article was when i came here. I guess IPs were responsible for that. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:50, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

It was like this the day it was promoted. Jivesh 1205 (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 12:55, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

I usually add info about live performance when they're significant enough. Regarding "Irreplaceable" and "Baby Boy", both FAs to which I have significantly contributed, have been recognized by the ASCAP as among those songs most performed in their respective years. And these two songs, among others, have notably been Knowles' staples on concert gigs and live performances. --Efe (talk) 12:56, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Its up to you. Mine was perhaps an "implemented" suggestion. haha. Regarding the background, you just add that previously Timbaland and Timberlake worked on the latter's albums, and that his writing the song on his head (and not on paper) was a "technique" (perhaps you choose for a better term) used during the production of FutureSex/LoveSounds. You need to give background more by saying that he does that because doing otherwise would "slow him down". --Efe (talk) 13:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Okay I'll check that later. When are you going to submit this to FAC? --Efe (talk) 05:11, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Left comment on my talk page. Thanks. --Efe (talk) 10:09, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Few more quibbles of mine. Good luck. --Efe (talk) 14:06, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Starting right now. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:35, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Cool :) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 09:37, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

There was not much to do. Have you already had a look at the references? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:51, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Oopss. I forgot. Concerning an image from the video. Rules at FAC are more severe now. You cannot place a screenshot there. Is there any free image on Flickr.com or something?★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:04, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Wait. Novice will be replaying soon. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:14, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

None of the images are free. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:25, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I will help you but not today. I am very sad today. Look at my talk-page. (You will understand why last time i told you not to use that language, remember?) ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:32, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I will my friend. Anything for all of you my friends who are my second family. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:46, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I've heard it, and on first impressions, I'm not sure if I like it. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 12:33, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Turns out I listened to older song from 2009. Butttt, I've heard a 30 second clip of We Found Love, and it sounds good. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 12:37, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Add Rihanna's sixth album to your watchlist please. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 15:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Omg, so much info is coming up about We Found Love, it's really annoying me that I can't add any of the info in!! :( Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:34, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

It has hit #1 on US iTunes! I think Rihanna could be looking at a top three position now on the Hot 100. I don't know if it has been released long enough to get #1. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 14:08, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

It has on the contrary fell to number 3. I bet you saw that on Twitter. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:11, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

And Tommy, where on Earth are you? You have not been online since two days. Are you fine? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:14, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) No, Daily Mail. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 14:14, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Daily Mail is not reliable for charts, sales, certifications, etc. It can only be used to describe live performances. (per Wikipedia) ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:16, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I know, I just read that it had peaked at #1 on iTunes. And Tomica was on last night. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 14:17, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

It is false Calvin. It has been in light green light on iTunes since yesterday morning. It was not able to pass 96.84%. I follow everything through UKMix. They are fabulous. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:23, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I know it's not #1 on iTunes now, but it was yesterday wasn't it? Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 14:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

No Calvin, i assure you. And one thing that most Rihanna fans, following iTunes trajectories know, is that Rihanna's songs ALWAYS fall down iTunes during the week-end. Do you know how the song is doing on radio in the US? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:58, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Oh, what's it's highest peak then? It's #3 now. And the song isn't being sent to US radio until October 11. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 15:01, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Follow everything here. They are amazing!!!!!!!

www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=84113&start=975

It peaked at number 2 yesterday and Friday as well. Calvin, songs do not need to be sent to radios in the United States for them to play the songs. For instance, "Party" is not a single, yet it is at 11 million AI. WFL has already started gaining airplay. I will be posting the daily updates of WFL in a while. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:04, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

• Day 1: We Found Love f/Calvin Harris: 3.289
• Day 2: We Found Love f/Calvin Harris: 5.441 (+ 2.152)
• Day 3: We Found Love f/Calvin Harris: 7.317 (+ 1.876)

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:05, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

So the mainstream radio adds on October 11 means nothing? lol. I really want the We Found Love article to be open, I've it got ready and everything, it's actually quite a decent size considering it's only been released a few days. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 15:24, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Have you used a sandbox? If yes, let me see it. My eyes are burning to see it. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:28, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

No I haven't used a sandbox. I don't really use them anymore. Billboard will release a preview of the charts tomorrow, and Rihanna will no doubt be on it, so I don't see why I can't add my info to it now. Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 15:29, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I hate Wikipedia for being silly sometimes. We all know that this would chart. It was such a silly move to re-direct it but i know we have to abide by rules. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:35, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Btw, do you like what I've done with the Background and composition section of Pon De Replay? Calvin • ^NaNaNaC'mon! 16:02, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I have already looked at that. I like love it. In fact, i am feeling a bit jealous. Lol. Do you like the link i gave you? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys. I'm alive don't worry Jivesh :) ! I was just taking some rest from editing the "Rehab" article. I must say when I saw all of Efe's comments, I was like LOL. I know that they are just his opinions, however I also know that he is right and I should fix them. However, the song will chart for sure on the Hot 100 this week... Top 10 for sure, I would also like to Top 5, however we will see. Btw "Pon de Replay" LOL, gooood =) !— Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:21, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I am happy you feel better Tommy. I also did the same yesterday and yes, it helps a lot. There is definitely a life outside Wikipedia. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:24, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Definitely ! :) However, also there is no life without Wikipedia. It's just fun here, we help, but we also hang out and that's super cool =) !— Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:26, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

That's true. I think i will not leave Wikipedia even after i get married and have kids. Lol. And you? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:27, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm planning not to leave it. But, of course we will see as the time goes by :) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:30, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Do you like Rihanna's new single? I am in love with it now. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:34, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

MMMM ... yup I like it, no more than Only Girl (In the World) or Umbrella, however I like it. It's fun, but it could contain more text if I was asking. Nvm still I think it will be a WW hit. I prefer "Take a Bow" style songs, that R&B subtle beat is just killing me :) ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:38, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

That what i told Calvin, and he agreed, it does lack lyrical content. The song i like the most from Rihanna is "Umbrella" followed by "Te Amo". ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:42, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

My Rihanna Top 5 are:

• "Take a Bow"
• "Only Girl (In the World)"
• "Umbrella"
• "Rehab"
• "Unfaithful" — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:44, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Mine is

• Umbrella
• Te Amo
• Unfaithful
• Don't Stop the Music
• Take a Bow
• Hard
• What's My Name?
• Skin
• Hate That I Love You
• We Found Love

Bye for now. I am off to bed. Very tired. Goodnight and sweet dreams. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:50, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Good Night :). C Ya Tomorrow ! — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:52, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

I love it. Give me 20 minutes. I am a bit busy. Someone (and i know who it is) has messes up Beyonce's singles' release dates. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:06, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Better not use those words. Apparently he has the best defenders here and that's how my friend got blocked. Let's forget this. He is not worth our time. (Do you know from where this line is?) ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:16, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful Liar. I love the song but i prefer a remix that radios in my country used to play. Apparently, it is not available for download anywhere. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:25, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm, who? Shakira? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:33, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Wow, happy to know that. Lol. I will get on "Rehab" in 10 minutes, Nearly finished with my other work. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:37, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

" Done. The rest looks fine. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:07, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

You are welcome. Have a nice day. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:13, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry. I am back now. I am getting on it now. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I read it more than three times but could not figure out how to write it. I will ask one of my very good friends. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 07:00, 27 September 2011 (UTC)