Talk:United States Chamber of Commerce

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GIPC does not appear to be notable except as part of the Chamber of Commerce. It could be dealt with in a small section or paragraph here. Apocheir (talk) 22:17, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. GIPC has only 4 footnotes, all of which link to its own website. PetesPizza (talk) 13:36, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Y Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 11:27, 14 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per the request, taking my reasoning here before re-editing.

1. Opinion pieces are not citations per Wikipedia:Reliable sources
2. Conflating board member stats as a representation of total membership statistics is misleading
3. The claim about representing over 3 million businesses is cited twice - by an opinion piece. Again, see Wikipedia:Reliable sources
4. 'Strong conservative positions' (which is based on the opinion article as a citation) is wrong; this page already talks about its positions: "Politically, the US Chamber of Commerce is considered to be on the political right, but is known to take positions that many Republicans, particularly populists, do not support. The US Chamber is often associated with the establishment wing of the Republican Party."

Reverting the page to its previous, stable form before its vandalism. Thank you. Coconutshrimp (talk) 11:09, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The guidelines are clear: Yes we can use "opinion pieces"---WP:REPUTABLE states: "This means that we publish only the analysis, views, and opinions of reliable authors....When taking information from opinion content, the identity of the author may help determine reliability. The opinions of specialists and recognized experts are more likely to be reliable and to reflect a significant viewpoint." In this case a major news magazine has selected and verified the reliable authors. Rjensen (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On its LINKEDIN Page the Chamber states: "The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is the world’s largest business organization representing the interests of more than three million businesses of every size, sector, and region." see https://www.linkedin.com/company/u-s--chamber-of-commerce/ Rjensen (talk) 20:09, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can't quote the US Chamber of Commerce as a reliable source for an article on the US Chamber of Commerce.

The group is well known for representing large global businesses.

https://www.economist.com/business/2016/07/09/the-two-faces-of-usa-inc

Many academic sources agree with this. Ilyana.Sombrelune (talk) 19:56, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A little late here, but which 'academic sources' agree with this and what kind of 'academic' sources are they? What is the evidence that USCC represents the 'large global business' bogeyman and not the +90% of the US economy that isn't in a union or on the floor of a factory? Jonathan f1 (talk) 20:06, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence "It claims to represent over 3 million businessess although this claim is regularly contested" is far more accurate than "it represents 3 million businesses"

The former claim is an advertising, not a serious claim. Ilyana.Sombrelune (talk) 19:58, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I meant the later ** Ilyana.Sombrelune (talk) 19:59, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]