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I wonder, in everyday life, when I feel really cold outside and I want to rush indoors for warmth, how these ascetics deal with it. I udnerstand coldness is a part of reality and must ideally be experienced when it presents itself with a calm mind.

I'm curious how aesthetics, like Buddha and his followers, manage this since they lived in the forests for extended periods without heating or modern amenities. How is it possible for them not to get sick or die from diseases and cold? More importantly, in the early stages of renunciation, how do they resist the urge to return to civilization?

Sorry if its a silly question, But I have wondered about it every day these months without finding an answer yet. Thanks

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The answer is simple.Once you realize the gravity of the situation and you become monk , you go through the cold or heat or whatever the weather conditions are. Essentially you do not crave for civilisation or clothes or food. You take whatever is given as told by Buddha in the Noble Eight Fold path as Right Livelihood. If food is given you take the food. If clothes are given you take the clothes. If shelter is given you take the shelter but you do not crave for it.As a monk, you have to be in meditative state all the time. For example - when it feels cold you remind yourself that there is a feeling of cold, and like all feelings this too has origin and that which has origin will come to an end. This feeling will pass. You should be alert about whatever feelings are coming to you. It is a tough path and Dhamma should be understood properly and one should be aware of it all the time. Once you go through the cold or heat or rain then over a period of time you become tolerant towards it. In any case you should not leave Dhamma.

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    There is a good point here that enduring the cold over time allows one to become accustomed to in.
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    @Remyla I helped a kid make a snowman a few weeks ago, I'd stepped outside to check the weather, with no sleeves and no gloves -- he asked me, "Isn't it cold?", and I replied, "Well of course it's cold!" But I'm Canadian, I figure I can tell the difference between superficial/transient cold and like, frostbite or hypothermia.
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    @blue_ego Of course. The reason can not remain hidden forever. Buddhism is based on experience. Commented 18 hours ago
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    @ChrisW i think beauty helps too...
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In most cases I would expect that the ascetic must deal primarily with the function of mind, so in the case of dealing with the cold, there is obviously a physical aspect of physical feeling one experiences from temperature but cold itself is just a sensory experience one can endure with patience. It is the suffering it causes, a mental factor, that the person needs to primarily deal with. Reminding themselves of the nature of samasara and the 3 marks of existence, that cold is indeed an unpleasant (also impermanent) sensation and that it is the clinging to the sensation that causes suffering, i.e the 7th and 8th dependant related links.

That being said on a more practical level. While a (traditional) ordained person is not allowed to own more than robes and a bowl, sticks, wood, tinder, kindling are not owned by anyone and enduring hardship like cold for the sake of it is an extreme, extreme asceticism. So one would expect even the sangha in the Buddhas age did in fact take sticks off the ground, rub sticks together and make fire.

Plus also keep in mind that ancient Nepal/India was nowhere near as cold as say modern day northern Europe. So if you were a European ascetic in modern times, you would need more tools and ability to make fire to literally survive, or it would be testament to suicide via negligence of oneself, again an extreme. Meaning to collect firewood and keep them dry in anticipation for the extreme weather.

Remember the original sangha retreated to caves to wade out the monsoon season. In Europe we don't have monsoons, we have extreme cold. So one would expect the same precautions of retreating to a cave (and collecting firewood) is what is needed to endure extreme cold, just like Buddha and the sangha did to endure extreme rain.

Even the dhutanghas, the ascetic practices praised by the Buddha have no mention of "enduring weather for the sake of enduring"

Then to add, in Tibet, obviously even more cold that northern Europe, specifically the vajrayana teachings, some have mastered the practice of tummo, a meditation practice gaining the ability to regulate the inner heat of the body. Where these teachings originated from I do not know, most likely post Buddhas life but it would lead one to expect such things were known and maybe practised as a direct antidote to extreme cold within the Buddhas lifetime. just of course Buddhas teachings are document only relating to the Dharma, not for yogic practises that are not directly leading to liberation.

As for resisting the urge to return to society. Well one abandons the householder lifestyle because of seeing how fruitless it is. They would have only needed to basic contemplate what life was like before going forth into the homeless life to realize that it is a folly to think reverting back to a householder life will sort the real problems out. A householder and an ascetic both get cold in the winter regardless. Plus they would still have had to re-enter society for alms round regardless.

I personally think in modern time Europe one would genuinely need support of lay people to survive asceticism like the original sangha did to endure the cold. Be it a coat, sleeping bag, windbreaking equipment, tent/coat etc or actual shelter in their home. Let alone food. One would probably get frostbite and die walking barefoot and living with only robes and a bowl like the original sangha did in modern northern Europe weather.

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    I used Europe as my basis of the place of dealing with cold weather though it is interchangeable with any northern hemisphere areas that deal with extreme cold. I think it would be impossible to live and survive the weather like the original sangha did in modern places like canada, alaska, siberia. I also find it quite funny that modern (western) theravada sects "celebrate" vasak, the rains retreat like the original sangha and have not adopted the retreat time of the year to their surroundings.
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Here's the modern climate for Varanasi:

Climate in Varanasi

Average High and Low Temperature in Varanasi

https://weatherspark.com/y/110718/Average-Weather-in-Varanasi-Uttar-Pradesh-India-Year-Round

So the "low" temperature is 50F i.e. 10C.

I call that a "double-digit temperature" -- because that's 10 or above -- at that temperature I wear a T-shirt outside (and so it seems humanly possible to me).

I suppose that monks have robes and so on and needn't expose their skin. You can also stay a lot warmer with some muscular exercise -- maybe walking sometimes during the night. Also having an "inner robe" I presume will help with insulation, i.e. to protect the core.

In other climates they change the monastic rules slightly -- e.g I believe that monks wear shoes or boots outside during Canadian winters.

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