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Ethan is actually famous and should have a Wikipedia article. Go to this link to prove it: https://www.youtube.com/user/EthanGamerTV — User talk:MattWorks 18:02, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

• No link - ignored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:48, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about the confusion regarding the block length - I had seen in this edit that you had said "block completely", but I see now that you were referring to scope and not length. Thanks for the help - I'll keep you in the loop if I see any more chicanery. — Chubbles (talk) 03:42, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Good afternoon, I hope all is well! Could you please kindly forward the content to us from deleted page High School Association of Medical Engineers & Scientists, Inc. please? Thank you very much! If there are troubles our wiki account is CreativeOps and our email is <redacted>. — CreativeOps (talk) 18:10, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

• I have emailed you your text but kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your association is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:48, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi RHaworth, This is about the deleted article Tsakane Secondary School. I'm also annoyed with @Melcous:, which makes me annoyed with two people I thoroughly trust and admire.

Tsakane quite obviously must have secondary schools, one of which may have been the one you deleted. Why not do a little research, instead of tagging/deleting?
Grr. Pete AU aka -- Shirt58 (talk) 09:10, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Shirt58 Hi Pete, sorry for annoying you and yes, fair call that I could have put a little more effort into it - no content/context at all does tend to be something that annoys me :) Cheers, Melcous (talk) 09:36, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

• Shirt58, it is not my job to do research. It is up to the creator of any article to show that the subject is real and notable. In any case an article of which the entire content was "Tsakane ext secondary school Top 5" stands no chance of survival. If L.z.motloung55 (talk · contribs) cares to try again via a sandbox, a decent article stands a good chance of survival. (Incidentally, a little research reveals a number of secondary schools with unpronounceable names in Tsakane but none actually called Tsakane Secondary School!) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:12, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

• Tsk!  :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi (talk • contribs)

Dear RHaworth - my recent article about Oars + Alps was deleted and I was hoping you could provide some insight into why. It wasn't meant to be promotional (I am unaffiliated with he company, so no COI). I ensured the references were accurate and complete. Any guidance? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darek84CJ (talk • contribs) 15:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

• First explain this pointless edit. When I see an editor with no past history produce a spammy article, I view claims of "no COI" with the greatest scepticism. If you genuinely have no COI, resubmit via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:12, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Darek84CJ - Hi RHaworth - that pointless edit was a correction in contributing to your talk page without creating a new section heading. It had been lumped in with the previous heading so I wanted to keep things clean and tidy. Thank you for the guidance. — Preceding undated comment added 14:22, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

You REALLY should stop. You apparently get great joy from attempting to belittle others. Positive journalism would go farther. — Antavius (talk) 14:16, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

[Transferred to user talk:Myk Streja.]

Not that I'm especially unhappy to see pages like this go away, but I don't think your deletion summary said what you meant it to say: that AFD was closed as keep more than four years ago, and the G7 requested in the last few revisions doesn't look valid - plenty of other people had substantial edits to the article. Was it just the summary or the deletion itself that was accidental? I ask because I just found David K Williams (AfD discussion) in CAT:CSD, which was redirected here via AFD just a few days ago, and while I'd be even less sorry to see that article go, it doesn't seem like it would be a legitimate deletion. — Cryptic 03:09, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

• Restored. Robertlo9 (talk · contribs), not helped by Dw122339, made multiple cack-handed attempts at getting this deleted: simply blanking, using db-author and citing an AfD that had closed as keep. Robert, if you still want this deleted, you must start a new AfD discussion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:40, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

• Thank you for asking. I have been asked by David K. Williams and others at Fishbowl to delete this page because it continues to get spammed with content. Plus, the very name Fishbowl Inventory is no longer valid because the company isn't called that, nor does it sell a product called that anymore. It stopped doing that years ago. I can put you in contact with someone at Fishbowl if you require proof that they actually want this page deleted. — Robertlo9 (talk) 13:21, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

• To reverse my usual mantra: kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks this article should be deleted. We don't give a fig for what Fishbowl want - it is not theirs to decide. Did you see the word new in front of AfD? That means: start a new discussion, not vandalise one closed four years ago. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:03, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beijing Bus No. 360 Express. Can you please look at this page and see if it's eligible for Speedy Delete? I had PRODed it but it was removed without reasonable explanation. — Coderzombie (talk) 12:18, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

• Don't bother. Now at AfD so let that discussion run its course. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:55, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi there, RHaworth. I saw that you recently speedy-deleted User:Zonefocus22/sandbox/Paul_Addis for criterion G4. However, that criterion does not usually apply to userspace drafts, and the nominee for that deletion has made a number of incorrect nominations recently. Could you revert the deletion so that the draft can go through the appropriate process? Newimpartial (talk) 03:05, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Ummm, how can you close the discussion at MfC the day after you deleted the Userspace article? It's not as though there was consensus, anyway. Newimpartial (talk) 03:10, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Newimpartial, please take a minute and re-read the closure of the MFD (by the way, it's "D", not "C", in the acronym). As the page was speedy deleted, there was no more need for the deletion discussion, so it was closed (by me). Primefac (talk) 03:13, 28 May 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Sorry for the typo, and for misattributing the closure of the discussion.

I still don't understand, though, why the G4 deletion was done, at a time where the MfD discussion was underway without consensus?Newimpartial (talk) 03:16, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Not to pile on, but the draft was way, way more substantial and at least a little better-sourced than the stub deleted at afd ten years ago. Letting it sit for a week at MFD wouldn't be the end of the world. —Cryptic 03:30, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

• Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:55, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

The talk page was supposed to be saved. Can you please bring back the content of the talk page? Thanks. -- Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 20:50, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

• You should be ashamed of yourself: always provide a link when you talk about any page. Talk:Program for Action/GA1 restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:00, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth, I am the author of a deleted wiki page Draft:European Scientific Cooperative on Phytotherapy. I would be grateful if you could give me support concerning this page; I tried to rely on the already existing German wiki page of ESCOP (de:European Scientific Cooperative on Phytotherapy but it seems that the English editors are more strict.... ;-) I have prepared an updated version with independent refs), and I would be very grateful if you could have a look at it before publishing. May I send it to you for supervision? Many thanks, Dezső Csupor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csupord (talk • contribs) 20:24, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

• Learn wikilinks! If you really insist on trying yet again, do so in draft space. But it would be better if you would kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your organisation is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:24, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. As a beginner, I would be glad if you would specify where I should learn wikilinks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csupord (talk • contribs) 18:38, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

• Here for goodness sake! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:36, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi, RHaworth! This is my first time editing. But I'm editing Felino cB7. Would you mind if could restore it back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by K3v1n1sspecial (talk • contribs) 23:35, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

• I haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. Provide a link. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:24, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
  • There was a Felino CB7, but that was deleted a long time ago and never had any content except a hatnote. —Cryptic 01:34, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
• Sadly we shall probably never know - I suspect the message was at the limit of that person's communication abilities.

K3v1n1sspecial, prove this hardened, sarcastick cynic wrong: tell me in clear terms with a proper wikilink what you are talking about. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:44, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

File:2007 Southeast Asian Games closing ceremony.jpg. Hi, previously I did change the tag for the picture you've deleted earlier. But how come it's not the right one? Can you tell me which tag is the suitable one for that picture? Thanks.--Hongqilim (talk) 12:43, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

• Even your revised text contained the claim: cannot be replaced with a copyright free alternative. Was private photography banned at the event? Surely hundreds if not thousands of images exist. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:44, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, understood, agree. -- Hongqilim (talk) 19:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of User:MacAuslan/AWE (academic writing in English). I am MacAuslan. I don't remember in detail what the page you complain of (and deleted) contained. I am sure that I have never tried to use wikipedia as a web-hosting service. Please send me a copy of the deleted text. If you can also explain to a technologically limited wikipedian (me) the error of his ways, he (I) would be grateful. — MacAuslan (talk) 16:57, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

• The primary deletion reason was stale draft - the page had not been touched for six years. If it had been submitted to mainspace, it could have been deleted as non-notable website - absolutely no evidence offered. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:44, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the text. I cannot see that my text is trying to use wikipedia as a web-hosting service, so I don't agree with its deletion. What kind of encyclopaedia is wikipedia if information has "not been touched for six years"? I can see that you might object to lack of evidence: if you reinstate the article (or permit me to do so) I'll add a link, and update the statistics. It seems worthwhile for wikipedia to notice a philanthropic resource that is well used. — MacAuslan (talk) 19:03, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

• "Not been touched for six years" - sure, if it is encyclopedic and in mainspace then it may remain untouched indefinitely. But different rules apply outside mainspace. Never mind six years, stale drafts are deletable after six months.

It took me some time to find the AWE website which suggests that it is not notable. But feel free to have a go with a new article. It must be put in mainspace or submitted via AfC within six months. We do not like double-barrelled titles and I am unsure what to recommend. I think AWE (website) would be best. Then if is is accepted, create a redirect to it at Academic Writing in English - yes, with a capital W. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:44, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi there. I note that you're listed in Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. I don't actually require a copy of this article (I don't think), but would you be able to tell me who the subject of the article deleted as a result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Susan Baker was? I'm about to draft an article on an academic called Susan Baker and I just want to check that it's not the same person. Thanks. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:03, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

• Three states emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:20, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Herbin Van Cayseele Stanislas should be the deleted page not Tamangoh Herbin VanCayseele Stanislas. — Brazil201 (talk) 22:15, 31 May 2017 (UTC)Brazil201

• Learn wikilinks! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:29, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Would you email me Template:YouTube most viewed, Template:Cross-dressing footer, Template:Cycling federations, and Template:Cycling at international multi-sport events and their histories? Thank you in advance. Gonejackal (talk) 23:41, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

• Done. If you want any more info., I will need an explanation of why you need it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:29, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Although I must say, when it comes to 'cross-dressing footer', I'm not sure I'd want any more information!  ;) — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 17:36, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, got the email. I am interested in the changes that took place in Template:YouTube most viewed, specifically

(diff) 2017-05-07T09:42:59 . . Luke Stark 96 (talk | contribs | block) (1,213 bytes) (Update)

(diff) 2017-05-02T09:51:57 . . Luke Stark 96 (talk | contribs | block) (1,213 bytes) (Update)

(diff) 2017-04-28T09:37:40 . . Luke Stark 96 (talk | contribs | block) (1,202 bytes) (Update)

(diff) 2017-04-22T21:55:35 . . Luke Stark 96 (talk | contribs | block) (1,202 bytes) (Update)

I want to see if the only changes by the user are changing entries in the template. Thanks again. Gonejackal (talk) 19:38, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

• I cannot image why you should possibly want this info. And what changes could they be apart from "changing entries in the template" - setting it on fire or turning it upside down? I have restored the entire history of the template to User:Gonejackal/sandbox. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:33, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
  • I did it for verification purposes. I didn't do my due diligence in checking the history of the template before it got deleted.Gonejackal (talk) 22:03, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Your work includes so much boring routine for which I suspect you seldom get thanked. Because of that, I'm specifically thanking you for the utterly routine author-requested deletion of Introduction to spacetime and Spacetime (Introduction section) summary, which were probably two among a zillion other repetitive chores that you had to take care of today. Guys like you really help keep Wikipedia going, "Mr. Grumpy Old Man". From one G.O.M. to another, cheers! Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk) 12:43, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks for your thanks. Fortunately the job itself is, in some ways, its own reward. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:29, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Why did you delete my draft ? User:SageGreenRider/Navitas I have not been inactive for one year so G6 does not apply. — ^{Talk to} SageGreenRider 02:30, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

• OK, I bent the rules. The article had not been touched by you for eighteen months. But what are you moaning about - there was nothing in it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:27, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Then please bend the rules back and restore it. It was a place holder for a project of mine. — ^{Talk to} SageGreenRider 20:50, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

• There is no place in Wikipedia for place holders. If you really insist on having a page, it will take you very little time to re-create it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

	وسام مكافحة التخريب
	I made an article with some mistakes. thank you so much for the links that you sent me, it was so helpful :) Ehab Caesar Alshufi (talk) 01:47, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

This person is rude. I will be contacting Wikipedia. — Antavius (talk) 14:15, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

• Don't be ridiculous: what on earth is rude about Ehab's message? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

While I'm certain that you'll suggest that it wasn't personal, please help me too understand why it was that you deleted my page (Antavius Weems). While i may not be notable enough to you, it appears that i have gained a respectable amount of notoriety which would support my having a wikipedia page. I would love to hear your thoughts. — Antavius (talk) 14:14, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Yes, but- nine months later? Anyhow, above, you called RH 'rude', which hardly seems an optimal strategy with which to seek his assistance  :) happy editing! — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 14:26, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

• Fortuna, in fact it is 26 months later! That which I deleted was created by FamousParis1 (talk · contribs) and its total content was "A List Celebrity Attorney Famous Paris Hollywood". Ironically it is just possible that Famous Paris had no COI. The last contribution by Antavius was on 2015-04-11 21:39:34.

Antavius, as Fortuna says, you don't really deserve a reply but my standard mantra fits perfectly: kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello there. Thank you for checking my article. How comes you deleted the article regarding the Dartford Young Musician of the Year competition? It is a major event here in Dartford, and lots of people watch it. It is judged by professionals and features local performances. It is endorsed by multiple music companies and music professionals. It is an important event. If there is any valid problem with the article, please reply and let me know what to change, and I will do so. Please could you bring the article back, and I'll try and rectify all mistakes. I have the link of my article. Thanks for your co-operation. — RickstaDaBest123 (talk) 17:35, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

• Absolutely no attempt made to demonstrate notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello! I don't understand what you mean by it not being notable! All music professionals know about it, and it is a major music competition in the Borough of Dartford! Similarly, to the BBC Young Musician of the Year award is the same concept, but the Dartford Young Musician of the Year award represents Dartford's finest musicians. This is not just one event; it comprises of multiple ones including the auditioning stage, the finals and the performances from professionals, like Alex Ridout who was the BBC Young Jazz Musician in a previous year. Please reply with what you mean by "notability" and if there is a clearer way to improve the article. Thanks for your help. — RickstaDaBest123 (talk) 20:57, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

• Does the word "evidence" suggest anything to you? You claim "all music professionals know about it". Why should I take your word for it? Give me independent evidence - typically as links to reliable websites. In any case "all music professionals" is probably insufficient - how well known is it to the publick at large? Please read this. A Google search for "Dartford Young Musician of the Year" is distinctly unpromising but if you can actually find proper evidence of notability, re-submit via AfC so that your text stands a chance of surviving for days rather than for less than an hour as has been the case with your two previous submissions. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi RHaworth. I see you've deleted P. T.T. Easter (Film director) and blocked its creator as an obvious sock of SEFPRODUCTIONS. Well there's another sock account X1SLY555 (talk · contribs) who has created pages for films by this same guy. The films are all up at AfD, CSD or PROD but I think they could all be zapped under G5 and the account could be blocked. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 01:35, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

• I don't know why he goes on doing it. He doesn't even try to submit decent articles any more. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth, There was nothing promotional about the article. It was quite neutral and all facts were verified with citations and most trusted sources as shared on the article. I'm no way related to the company and can provide any proof you want. After recommendations from two senior WIkians, I did the suggested edits and content and was resubmitted. Only to be seen as deleted. Kindly reconsider it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theaphorist (talk • contribs) 13:50, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Please share the deleted article content with me. Also if you can please let me know why it was deleted even after correcting the tone and removing anything which might even closely resemble a promotional article. I'm no way associated with t he company and all points were cited by the most trusted online links and articles from Forbes, Times Of India and Business Standard towards the last edit, it was made sure that the article looks like an encyclopedia entry and not a company description. It might quite overwhelming for you to reply to every edit/delte request and iIunderstand this job is not easy. Hence I want to make sure that all contents are perfect before updating from now. Deleted article link: Id fresh foods. — Theaphorist (talk) 15:23, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

• If and only if, you have no CoI, re-submit via AfC. Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:01, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

• Thank you so much, RHaworth, I assure you that (willing to prove any way acceptable in the wiki community), just the beginning. There will be more contributions all without any COI and will be adhering to all Wikipedia rules. Thank you so much for emailing me the deleted content.
• Would prefer geeting it reviewd by you as you ar eone of the senior most. Id fresh food

Resubmitted thearticle here at: Id fresh food (please review it if you get time, i'll prefer you as were very helpful with references to Wiki articee — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theaphorist (talk • contribs) 07:41, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello RH. You recently deleted a user page that was being used as advertising. The talk page still exists here User talk:Gurjeet singh asr. As I type this I am realizing that - since it is user space rather than an article - maybe leaving the talk page is okay. I thought it better to check with you just to be sure. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 20:04, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @MarnetteD: Yeah, user pages aren't subject to WP:G8 ('It excludes any page that is useful to Wikipedia, and in particular... user pages, user talk pages, talk page archives'). However as The Haworth has drummed in to me many times ;) a talk page with no history to it can be deleted. And I wonder, do you think, in this case, where the history is nothing but spam and a deletion request, that that spam should be erased from the history? Yes, I think so too  :) Cheers MD, nice to see you again; take care RH. — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 20:14, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi RHaworth, Yesterday you have deleted my sandbox article about Currency Solutions. It was flagged as promotional by Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi. I have contest the nomination pointing out that at least 4 similar articles have already exist in Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransferWise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currencies_Direct https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiFX https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moneycorp

I believe my article followed the neutral tone and focused on facts. I have also followed the WP:COI and have listed myself as connected contributor. However I didnt receive an answer of what should be improved in the article and why is different than the others that have already been published. As a new author I would appreciate your cooperation in order to improve. Thank you!